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RE: Re: Knekt KAT5?
- Subject: RE: Re: Knekt KAT5?
- From: Tony Butler
- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:34:00 +0000
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<DIV><SPAN class="160123011-19022002"><FONT
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size="2">Mike,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class="160123011-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">That's the Comfort PC software
right?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="160123011-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I
don't have comfort so no go.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="160123011-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Even
if I had, Linn don't publish the spec of the signalling interface they use
so I have no idea how an RCU, which connects to a Line Receiver, tells the
Intersekt that it wants to listen to source
X.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="160123011-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">If
you're talking about just 'tapping in' to the audio output from the
intersekt, no go either as I would not be able to tell which source was
being presented to the output I am 'listening' to, and thus would not know
which source to tell the KAT5 switch to switch to
:(</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class="160123011-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class="160123011-19022002"><FONT
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<DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us"
dir="ltr" align="left"><FONT
face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mike Griffiths [mailto:mike@xxxxxxx]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 18 February 2002
20:41<BR><B>To:</B>
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [KAT5] Re:
Knekt KAT5?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN>Tony</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>I'm sure this can
be achieved by using ACE</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>I control my linn
preamp with it</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>I'm sure you will
be able to control the Kat5 switch with
ACE</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>And ace should be
able to listen to your Linn setup</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoAutoSig"><FONT face="Comic Sans
MS" color="navy"
size="3"><SPAN>Mike</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoAutoSig"><FONT face="Comic Sans
MS" color="navy" size="3"><SPAN>At
Home</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-US">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN>From:</SPAN></B>
Tony Butler [mailto:tony@xxxxxxx]
<BR><B><SPAN>Sent:</SPAN></B> 15 February
2002 14:38<BR><B><SPAN>To:</SPAN></B>
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN>Subject:</SPAN></B>
RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt KAT5?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><TT><FONT face="Courier
New" size="2"><SPAN>Errr....mmmm... I'm not quite
sure. Look (view as fixed font
plz):</SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier
New"
size="2"><SPAN><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">
-------VIDEO-----------------</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">
/
\ </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">DVD --------AUDIO------ I ----ZONE1---- S ---ZONE1----
Kitchen</FONT></TT><BR&
gt;<TT><FONT face="Courier New">VIDEO
------AUDIO------ N ----ZONE2---- W ---ZONE2----
Lounge</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Tuner ------AUDIO------
T "
3
I "
3
Bedroom</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Radio ------AUDIO------
E "
4
T "
4
etc</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">Jukebox ----AUDIO------
R "
5
C &
nbsp; "
5</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">SKY --------AUDIO------ S -----etc-----
H
etc</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">etc
E</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">
K</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New"> &nb
sp;
T</FONT></TT><BR><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Ie, the video output of the DVD is
connected to the </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Bugger. Nope that won't work.
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">The audio from the DVD can be routed anywhere because say I
select</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">intersekt zone 2, switch automatically
routes that to zone2 -
lounge.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">But the video is plumbed into input 1 on
the switch.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier
New">Pants.</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">There's
probably a solution somewhere based on 2 switches, but I
can't</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">be arsed ATM. Wait until I get
the switch eh? :)</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">The question remains though: Do
you think it will be possible
to</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">program the switch such that a scart trigger on input 1 can
cause it to</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">switch, say output 1, to display whatever
is on input 1?</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Outside my dumb ideas, this could be useful
to auto switch your TV
to</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">the CCTV input when someone is detected at the door - as long
as the</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT fa
ce="Courier New">CCTV will generate the required SCART
signals..</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">I have several 'zones' already Linn'ed up,
so I wanted to stick to
a</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">single means of switching sources rather than having something
for A</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">sources and something else for V
sources.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Of course if the RCU's would interface to
your switch, then I just
ditch</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">the intersekt and away we go
:-)</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">Or if I could turn back time, I would save myself a fortune by
not</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New&quo
t;>buying the Linn stuff & just wait for your switch to arrive
:{</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier
New">Cheers,</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier
New">Tony</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> -----Original
Message-----</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> From: Keith Doxey [mailto:kat5users@xxxxxxx]
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> Sent: 15 February 2002
13:38</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> To:
kat5-users@xxxxxxx</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt
KAT5?</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> </FONT&
gt;</TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> Hi
Tony,</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> I *think* I get it
now....</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> You want to use the KAT5 switch so that you can have ANY
of </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> your AV sources routed to <Room_Y> but in the event
of </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> Intersekt Zone_X being active you want to select a
DEFAULT </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> source fo
r Room_Y taking the Audio from <Input_X> and Video
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> from wherever the DVD was
connected.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> If you didnt want to select alternative Video sources
then </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> you might as well use vanilla KAT5
without the switcher.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> I personally think you are over-complicating things as
the </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> KAT5 switcher will be able to route everything by itself
if </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Co
urier New">> you can find a way of sending the commands to it.
You could </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> then keep the Intersekt as a high end
Audio system in the </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> main AV
location.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> Keith</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> -----Original
Message-----</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> From: Tony Butler [mailto:tony@xxxxxxx]</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> Sent: 15 February 2002
13:20</FONT&g
t;</TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> To:
kat5-users@xxxxxxx</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt
KAT5?</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > Hi
Tony,</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> > I'm confused
:-(</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> ></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > This is what I dont
get....</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> >
; "could your switch be programmed such that having received a SCART
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> > trigger on input X, it would always automatically
output that to </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > output Y" ...if it ALWAYS
routes X to Y then there is no
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> point having
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> > a
switch.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> > The Intersekt only handles Audio, how will you
select which Video </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > source you want, or are you
saying "I select <AUDIO 1> on Inters
ekt </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> > for <Zone3> therefore I want the KAT5 Switch
to select </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> <AVSource1> and
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> > Route it to
<Zone3>".</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> Yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking. ATM, I
have intersekt </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> piping DVD audio around the house,
Yamaha AC3 amp doing the
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> duty for the video signals & AC-3 audio, and by
connecting </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Co
urier New">> the DVD to the video, I can watch DVD in the
bedroom on </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> crappy RF. I want to replace RF with
KAT5.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> > If so, and assuming you built a reliable audio
detection interface, </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > how will you differentiate
between Audio from <Audio1> or <Audio3>
?</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> I don't need
to.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> If I select DVD to play in the bedroom, then the
intersekt </FONT></TT><BR><
TT><FONT face="Courier New">> will output the DVD
audio to the bedroom zone. If I then
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> decide to listen to the radio in the bedroom, it will
output </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> the radio to the bedroom zone. Either
way, the input on your </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> switch should be routed to what it
knows as the bedroom zone.
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> Each output zone on the intersekt would be connected to a
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> different input on the KAT5 switch. It is the intersekt
that </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> will differentiate between the various
audio sources. The <
;/FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> switch just needs to know that input 1 always goes to
output </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> 1, input 2 to output 2
etc....</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> Or am I missing something
here?</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">>
Cheers,</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
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</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier
New">> </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
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