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RE: Re: Knekt KAT5?
- Subject: RE: Re: Knekt KAT5?
- From: Tony Butler
- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:32:00 +0000
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<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">Ahh....nice!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">Would love to have this info from you mike - though
perhaps best off list as not strictly KAT5
related.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I
don't have a terminal, but presumably hooking up to the serial port of a PC
and running hyperterminal would do the
job?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">The
next question of course is: Do you know what wires to use for comms
purposes? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">Obviously 4 wires are used for balanced audio, say 1?
for IR signals (from the RCU eventually to IR emitters stuck onto non-Linn
kit).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">As
the intersekt is several grands worth of kit, I am a _little_ reluctant to
try each wire in turn to see what happens
:-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="951282712-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">Tony</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us"
dir="ltr" align="left"><FONT
face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mike Griffiths [mailto:mike@xxxxxxx]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 February 2002
12:14<BR><B>To:</B>
'kat5-users@xxxxxxx'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [KAT5] Re:
Knekt KAT5?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="870412212-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Hi
Tony </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="870412212-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">The
Linn protocol is just asci</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="870412212-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="870412212-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">so
$MUTE Y$ will mute my pre amp</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="870412212-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="870412212-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">if
you hung a terminal across the Linn you could see what commands do what
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="870412212-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I
have all the protocol from the Linn AV pre amp I have
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="870412212-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">The
RCU must be using this protocol as the Linn Preamp is often used as the
switch in high end systems</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="870412212-19022002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">Mike</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr"
align="left"><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tony Butler [mailto:tony@xxxxxxx]<BR><B>Sent:</B>
19 February 2002 11:51<BR><B>To:</B>
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [KAT5] Re:
Knekt KAT5?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><TT>I stand
corrected Mark - but I think the rest of my comments
apply<BR>unfortunately :(<BR><BR>Do you have a link to
info on ACE at
all?<BR><BR>Ta,<BR><BR>Tony<BR><BR>>
-----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Mark Harrison [mailto:Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx]
<BR>> Sent: 19 February 2002 11:40<BR>> To:
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR>> Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt
KAT5?<BR>> <BR>>
; <BR>> > That's the Comfort PC software
right?<BR>> <BR>> Wrong! It's software remote
control of devices that was <BR>> ORIGINALLY developed for
interfacing with Comfort, but has <BR>> come a long way
since.<BR>> <BR>> Mark Harrison <BR>> Head of
Systems, eKingfisher <BR>> <BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: Tony Butler [mailto:tony@xxxxxxx]<BR>> Sent: 19
February 2002 11:35<BR>> To: kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR>>
Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt KAT5?<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Mike,<BR>> <BR>> That's the
Comfort PC software right?<BR>> I don't have comfort so no
go.<BR>> Even if I had, Linn don't publish the spec of the
signalling <BR>> interface they use so I have no idea how an RCU,
which <BR>> connects to a Line Receiver, tells the Intersekt that
it <
BR>> wants to listen to source X. If you're talking about just
<BR>> 'tapping in' to the audio output from the intersekt, no go
<BR>> either as I would not be able to tell which source was being
<BR>> presented to the output I am 'listening' to, and thus would
<BR>> not know which source to tell the KAT5 switch to switch to
:(<BR>> <BR>> cheers,<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Tony<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>
From: Mike Griffiths [mailto:mike@xxxxxxx] <BR>> Sent: 18
February 2002 20:41<BR>> To: kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR>>
Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt KAT5?<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Tony<BR>> <BR>> I'm sure
this can be achieved by using ACE<BR>> <BR>> I control my
linn preamp with it<BR>> <BR>> I'm s
ure you will be able to control the Kat5 switch with ACE<BR>>
<BR>> And ace should be able to listen to your Linn
setup<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
Mike<BR>> <BR>> At Home<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: Tony Butler [mailto:tony@xxxxxxx] <BR>> Sent: 15
February 2002 14:38<BR>> To: kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR>>
Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt KAT5?<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Errr....mmmm... I'm not quite sure.
Look (view as fixed font plz):<BR>>
<BR>>
-------VIDEO-----------------<BR>>
/ &nbs
p;
\ <BR>> DVD --------AUDIO------ I ----ZONE1---- S ---ZONE1----
<BR>> Kitchen VIDEO ------AUDIO------ N ----ZONE2---- W
---ZONE2---- Lounge<BR>> Tuner ------AUDIO------
T "
3
I "
3 Bedroom<BR>> Radio
------AUDIO------
E "
4
T "
4 etc<BR>> Jukebox
----AUDIO------
R "
5
C " 5<BR>&g
t; SKY --------AUDIO------ S -----etc-----
H etc<BR>>
etc
E<BR>>
K<BR>>
T<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ie, the video output of the
DVD is connected to the <BR>> Bugger. Nope that won't
work. <BR>> The audio from the DVD can
be routed anywhere because say I <BR>> select intersekt zone 2,
switch automatically routes that to <BR>> zone2 - lounge. But the
video is plumbed into input 1 on the <BR>> switch.
Pants.<BR>> <BR>> There's probably a solution somewhere
based on 2 switches, <BR>> but I can't be arsed ATM.
Wait until I get the switch eh? :) <BR>> The question remains
though: Do you think it will be <BR>> possible to
program the switch such that a scart trigger on <BR>> input 1 can
cause it to switch, say output 1, to display <BR>> whatever is on
input 1? Outside my dumb ideas, this could be <BR>> useful to auto
switch your TV to the CCTV input when someone <BR>> is detected at
the door - as long as the CCTV will generate <BR>> the required
SCART signals..<BR>> <BR>> I have several 'zones' already
Linn'ed up, so I wanted to <BR>> stick to a single means of
switchin
g sources rather than <BR>> having something for A sources and
something else for V <BR>> sources. Of course if the RCU's would
interface to your <BR>> switch, then I just ditch the intersekt
and away we go :-) Or <BR>> if I could turn back time, I would
save myself a fortune by <BR>> not buying the Linn stuff &
just wait for your switch to arrive :{<BR>> <BR>>
Cheers,<BR>> <BR>> Tony<BR>> > -----Original
Message-----<BR>> > From: Keith Doxey [mailto:kat5users@xxxxxxx]<BR>>
> Sent: 15 February 2002 13:38<BR>> > To:
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR>> > Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re: Knekt
KAT5?<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Hi
Tony,<BR>> > <BR>> > I *think* I get it
now....<BR>> > <BR>> > You want to use the KAT5
switch so that you can have ANY of<BR>> >
your AV sources routed to <Room_Y> but in the event of <BR>>
> Intersekt Zone_X being active you want to select a DEFAULT
<BR>> > source for Room_Y taking the Audio from <Input_X>
and Video <BR>> > from wherever the DVD was
connected.<BR>> > <BR>> > If you didnt want to
select alternative Video sources then<BR>> > you might as well
use vanilla KAT5 without the switcher.<BR>> > <BR>>
> I personally think you are over-complicating things as
the<BR>> > KAT5 switcher will be able to route everything by
itself if <BR>> > you can find a way of sending the commands to
it. You could <BR>> > then keep the Intersekt as a high end
Audio system in the <BR>> > main AV location.<BR>>
> <BR>> > Keith<BR>> > <BR>> >
-----Original Message-----<BR>> > From: Tony Butler [mailto:tony@
xxxxxxx]<BR>> > Sent: 15 February 2002 13:20<BR>>
> To: kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR>> > Subject: RE: [KAT5] Re:
Knekt KAT5?<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > >
Hi Tony,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > I'm confused
:-(<BR>> > ><BR>> > > This is what I dont
get....<BR>> > > "could your switch be programmed such
that having received a SCART<BR>> > > trigger on input X, it
would always automatically output that to <BR>> > > output
Y" ...if it ALWAYS routes X to Y then there is no <BR>> >
point having<BR>> > > a switch.<BR>> >
><BR>> > > The Intersekt only handles Audio, how will you
select which Video<BR>> > > source you want, or are you
saying "I select <AUDIO 1> on <BR>> Intersekt
<BR>> > > for <Zone3> therefore I want the KAT5 Switch
to s
elect <BR>> > <AVSource1> and<BR>> > >
Route it to <Zone3>".<BR>> > <BR>> >
Yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking. ATM, I have
intersekt<BR>> > piping DVD audio around the house, Yamaha AC3
amp doing the <BR>> > duty for the video signals & AC-3
audio, and by connecting <BR>> > the DVD to the video, I can
watch DVD in the bedroom on <BR>> > crappy RF. I want to
replace RF with KAT5.<BR>> > <BR>> > > If so,
and assuming you built a reliable audio detection <BR>>
interface,<BR>> > > how will you differentiate between Audio
from <Audio1> or <BR>> <Audio3> ?<BR>> >
<BR>> > I don't need to.<BR>> > If I select DVD to
play in the bedroom, then the intersekt<BR>> > will output the
DVD audio to the bedroom zone. If I then <BR>> > decide to
listen to the ra
dio in the bedroom, it will output <BR>> > the radio to the
bedroom zone. Either way, the input on your <BR>> > switch
should be routed to what it knows as the bedroom zone. <BR>> >
Each output zone on the intersekt would be connected to a <BR>>
> different input on the KAT5 switch. It is the intersekt that
<BR>> > will differentiate between the various audio
sources. The <BR>> > switch just needs to know that
input 1 always goes to output <BR>> > 1, input 2 to output 2
etc....<BR>> > <BR>> > Or am I missing something
here?<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
Cheers,<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
Tony<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
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