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RE: Switcher feature request
- Subject: RE: Switcher feature request
- From: Phillip Harris
- Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 20:31:00 +0000
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<DIV><SPAN class="439343119-09062002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">Don't you just love
'im?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="439343119-09062002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="439343119-09062002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">Phil</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us"
dir="ltr" align="left"><FONT
face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Keith Doxey [mailto:keith.doxey@xxxxxxx]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 09 June 2002
20:16<BR><B>To:</B>
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [KAT5] Switcher
feature request<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">The
design allows complete control of any crosspoint if given the correct
commands.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">It
would be possible to choose </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">
Luminance from source 1</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">
Chrominance from source 8</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"> Left
Audio from source 3</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">
Right audio from source 2</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">but
the results would probably be strange to say the
least.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">Normal control would be to select
Audio and Video from the same source</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">EG.
1,2,3,4 etc</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">Because I suspect many people will
have audio only sources and video only sources such as CCTV it will also be
possible to select for example A1 or
V6.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">I
*DO* plan to have an *AutoSplit* feature whereby if you choose a source
that is defined as Audio only, the video will stay on the last selected
channel, likewise for video only
sources.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">eg</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">1
SKY</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">2
Tivo</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">3 ITV
Digital</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">4
DVD</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">5
VCR</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">6
Entertainment PC</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">7
Radio
Tuner (Audio
Only) </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">8
Door Camera (Video
Only)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">If
you had Source 1 and then selected 8 you would be viewing the camera but
listening to SKY. Selecting 4 would re-combine Audio and Video so that you
were watching DVD with sound.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">I
anticipate that *IF* I make absolute crosspoint control available it would
have to be done by specific commands over the serial interface to avoid
making operation via remote control too
clumsy.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">At
some point there will be Digital Audio units with an add-on for the
switcher.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">Once
all the cards are available you could have a unit with all 8x8 inputs as
Phono....but how will you distribute them
?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">The
whole point of KAT5 is as a "Distributed" system. People have
already found a lack of CAT5 cables to various locations so the ideal place
for the switcher is Node 0 with distribution from there. A single CAT5 to
each room with a TV. Many of the source devices will also be able to sit in
Node 0 such as digibox, PC, ITV digital etc. The only sources not pracical
for node 0 are CCTV cameras which obviously have to be where thay are
needed and source Equipment such as DVD, CD, and VCR where the media is
required to be physically changed.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">If
you had an 8x8 switcher in the lounge with DVD, SAT, TIVO and
remote PC, 4 x CCTV over KAT5, you then feed this to 7 other locations (6
rooms and the projector) you would need 13 CAT5 cables (5 sources, 7
destinations, 1 ethernet) for the switcher from the Lounge to Node
0.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">In
the example above the lounge would have TV and DVD (2 cables) everything
else would be direct from Node 0.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN class="250295418-09062002">MK2
will be IR control AND SCART Control.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"><SPAN
class="250295418-09062002">Keith</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr"
align="left"><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tony Butler [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]<BR><B>Sent:</B>
09 June 2002 19:47<BR><B>To:</B>
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [KAT5] Switcher
feature request<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class="Section1">
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Excellent
news!<SPAN> </SPAN>Thought you might have that one
covered already.<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Now to be
_<I><SPAN>Really</SPAN></I>_ picky, what if I want
to have the Left audio channel from one source and the Right from
another?<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Not just to test
the flexibility of your design I might add – this could be useful
if you were watching TV for instance and wanted to quickly check the baby
monitoring audio channel, so you just flick the left audio and away you go
– you can still hear (1/2) of what’s going on <SPAN
class="SpellE">on</SPAN> the
box!<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Whilst
we’re on the subject of the switcher – I know you
haven’t done any digital audio KAT5 units yet, but do you think
the switcher will be able to handle switching digital whenever it makes an
appearance???<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Oh yes, and your
comments about the first cards are interesting – I’d
always envisaged it as an all in one unit ala the Linn <SPAN
class="SpellE">Intersekt</SPAN>, but it seems this will
be a bit of a spider <SPAN
class="SpellE">jobbie</SPAN> with loads of Kat5 units
hanging off it.<SPAN> </SPAN>Do you think
you’ll do an all in one 8x8 unit or is it just too much
hassle?<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>I guess you get
the flexibility with the spider approach that you just buy the switcher and
add KAT5 units as and when
required……<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN>Cheers,<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN>Tony<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>PS (Mk 2 Kat5
units – when??<SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN
class="GramE">Cost???</SPAN><SPAN>
</SPAN>Thought Mk2 had IR control – <SPAN
class="GramE">do</SPAN> u mean Mk3, or is Mk2 going to
have the full shooting
match????<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P><![if
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