RE: [KAT5] Wiring House

["Colin Brook" <colin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ant

I have just moved in to a new house that we have had built. It is flood
wired with Cat 5. (98 wires all running to 2 X 48 way patch panels in the
same cabinet. (I have not decided what to do with the other 2 yet). This
cost between ?1,500 and ?2,000. This included: 1st fix wiring, supply of
the
patch panels and RJ45 Sockets, punch down of all cables at both ends and a
cable test. The fitting of the cabinet and punching down was done by a
specialist networking firm and took 2 men most of 2 days. My figures are a
bit blurred, but it would seem that I paid about ?10 per wire for supply
and
1st fix. Most of them were between 5 and 10 metres long (I guess).  I
believe the electrician got through the best part of 3 X 305 metre boxes of
Cat 5e Cable. Once you have decided where node zero and the outlets will
be,
bearing in mind your comments about "Health and Safety", you have
little
choice but to use the Builders' Electrician. Cable seems to be about ?30
for
a 305 metre box.

Colin

Hi Listers

In his reply to Ant, Keith said

"Phone/Fax - Plug a phone line into the patch panel and a phone
adapter into
the socket in the room.".

If it were that simple! Using various cables and adaptors that I had lying
about I made a connection as suggested. I picked up the phone - great,
there
was a dialing tone. Made a call out - no problem. A couple of days later I
met a friend in the towns who enquired, "what is wrong with your
phone, I
have been trying to ring you for the last couple of days and I got no
reply". It seems that, although BT only use 2 wires for phone calls
you need
an extra one to make the phone ring. It appears that some or all of the
cables and adaptors I used did not have the third connection.

Can anyone please give me a supplier and description (part numbers) for the
following:

Adaptor to go into the BT Master Socket, which has an RJ45 socket as the
outlet.
Adaptor that will plug into the RJ45 socket below my desk, into which I can
plug the BT plug on my telephone.

Then, by using normal patch cables, I should be able attach my phone to the
local exchange and both make and receive calls.

Yours hopefully


Colin






-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Howe [mailto:graham@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 31 July 2004 21:02
To: kat5-users@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [KAT5] Wiring House

> 1 - Should I opt for cat 5e or cat 6 cable?

Cat5e, nothing really requires Cat6, every business premises in the
world is Cat5e and they won't all be rewiring any time soon, so
everything in the near future will also use cat5e.

> 2 - If I went with cat 6 would the KAT5 modules work okay?
Yes, but why bother

> 3 - Can I use the same "network" for both data and
> audio/video or is it better to use patch panels and create
> separate networks?
Same network is fine, that is what structured wiring is all about, I run
video, LAN, alarm, IR and phone all over the same Cat5e network and
often swap things around.
>
> 4 - I'm not allowed to wire the house myself prior to it
> being handed over to me (health and safety and all that). The
> electrician has offered to put it in (although can't give me
> a price until I give him a detailed diagram). Has anyone else
> taken this route and what advice can they give?
At least 4 wires ro every room, more to major AV or computer rooms and
all terminated back at a single point (node zero)

Graham



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