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Re: Newbie Again
Phil, I was under the impression if he runs cables from wall mounted ir
receivers to homebase, it would redistribute the signal all over the
house .. thus not needing an IR7243AH in each room he wants to be able
to use the pronto in. Have I got that wrong?
Phil Harris wrote:
> Don't scrap the LD10's they're a great piece of kit and with the LD11
> firmware they have preset dim and soft start which is wonderfull! If
you did
> want to dim halogens then just do a little more research before
choosing
> your mains transformers or go for mains halogens ... as I said, I have
had
> dimmable electronic transformers running off LD10's and they're fine.
>
> Jeez! Nothing like putting the wind up the guy...
>
> The IR7243AH allows you to send X10 commands from the Pronto which can
be
> picked up by modules round the house and my HomeVision ... I would
strongly
> suggest that you still do want this piece of kit!
>
> The appliance wall switches are dog ugly as are the LW10Us - try the
Clipsal
> switch plates with momentary switches operating LD10s and then you can
do
> your two way switching easily.
>
> Phil
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hall, Alex [mailto:alex.hall@xxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 17 August 2001 21:28
>> To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Newbie Again
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the responses so far...
>>
>> So I am scrapping the dimmers possibly - need to do a bit more
research on
>> this.
>>
>> 10002 LD10 DIN Mounted Lamp Module (LD11 Internal Software)
>> £34.99 * 14
>> 10455 DIN Enclosure for 1 x LD10/LD11
>> £17.63 * 14
>> 10 * 1 gang faceplates
>> 3 * 2 gang faceplates
>>
>> and replacing them with something like:
>>
>> 10030 APPLIANCE SWITCH AW10U (Requires NEUTRAL Wire) £30
>>
>> however my switches are unlikely to have a neutral wire ??? and
also some
>> likes the stairs/landing switches are 2 gang ???
>> Which the AW10U isn't ? And I'd like a brass coloured switches.
>>
>>
>> Also as I am going for HomeVision I don't need the IR7243AH.
Correct ?
>>
>> Do I need the XM10U ?
>>
>> And then add 2* the number of cat5 lines/ports.
>>
>> and finally some IR repeaters when Ian has finished them :-)
>>
>> and probably not bother with the WS10's either.
>>
>> thanks so far
>>
>> alex
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> flooring down and fit LV lighting,
>>>
>>> LV lighting does not mix well with X10 dimming. Basically the
>>> transformers
>>> don't like it and may fail, catch fire if you try it. They
>>> are fine with
>>> appliance type modules as these are straight on/off. Mains
>>> voltage halogens
>>> are fine for dimming.
>>>
>>>
>>>> In essence I am looking to have a small internal network
>>>
>>> 1-2 data ports in
>>>
>>>> each room, and then be able to connect
>>>
>>> tv/satellite/dvd/video around the
>>>
>>> Fit more CAT5 cable and ports and then double it. Pretty much
>>> everything can
>>> run over CAT5 including all you telly requirements - see Kat5
>>> from Keith
>>> Doxey.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 95000 Pronto RU890 Remote & RU941 Docking Station
>>>
>>> (Package Price)
>>>
>>>> £179.95
>>>> 10512 IR7243AH All House Code IR->X10 Converter for
>>>
>>> Pronto/RC5000
>>>
>>>> £72.85
>>>> 10215 XM10U (TW7223) X10 -> Mains Interface
>>>> £30
>>>
>>> All good choices
>>>
>>>
>>>> 10003 HomeVision Home Automation Controller 3.0 PAL
>>>
>>> £440
>>>
>>> Go for the standalone unit. It is small and under normal
>>> circumstances one
>>> of the most reliable bits of kit you can buy today. Budget
>>> for an expansion
>>> board in the future as that is great as well. Temperature
>>> input via Dallas
>>> thingies (1820s) and the analogue port etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Then, in terms of the house I am looking at fitting low
>>>
>>> voltage lighting
>>>
>>>> throughout which means:
>>>>
>>>> Room Dimmers Data Ports/TV-AV Ports
>>>> Lounge 2 gang 2/2
>>>> Dining Room 1 2/1
>>>> Hallway 2 gang 2/1
>>>> CloakRoom 1
>>>> Kitchen 1 2/1
>>>> FamilyRoom 1 2/1
>>>>
>>>> Bedroom1 1 2/2
>>>> Bedroom2 1 2/1
>>>> Bedroom3 1 2/1
>>>> Bedroom4 1 2/1
>>>> Bathroom 1
>>>> Ensuite 1
>>>> Landing 2 gang 2/1
>>>>
>>>> Does this therefore mean that I need 14 of the following
for the
>>>> Low Voltage
>>>> Lighting?
>>>>
>>>> 10002 LD10 DIN Mounted Lamp Module (LD11 Internal
Software)
>>>> £34.99 * 14
>>>> 10455 DIN Enclosure for 1 x LD10/LD11
>>>> £17.63 * 14
>>>> 10 * 1 gang faceplates
>>>> 3 * 2 gang faceplates
>>>>
>>>> Is there a cheaper source for brass faceplate dimmers as
>>>
>>> 10070/1 is > £70
>>>
>>>> each ?
>>>>
>>>> In order to do the Data Ports/TV-AV ports I am guessing I
need
>>>> around 2.5km
>>>> of cat5e wiring ? Does that sound correct.
>>>> Also where is a good place to purchase this (I live near
Windsor)?
>>>>
>>>> I also presume I will need to grab some Kat5 widget
thingies so I
>>>> can run AV
>>>> over the cat5e? Is that the generally recommended way now
?
>>>>
>>>
>>> See notes at the beginning!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ok also needed will be:
>>>>
>>>> crimping tool - yes
>>>> IR detector - any suggestions which one ? detector??
>>>> patch panel - any suggestions which one ? - lets automate
>>>
>>> ones are a good
>>> price although I have never seen one in the flesh.
>>>
>>>> patch panel leads - yes
>>>> and then a mixture of AM12/LM12/AW10 for the mains
electrics. - yes
>>>> Whats people's view on the WS10, its much more expensive
so
>>>
>>> is it worth it
>>> ? - pass
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anything else I missed, any other recomendations?
>>>
>>> You may want to think about IR distribution. I am developing
>>> some PIC based
>>> IR repeaters and Keith is working on IR return for KAT5. Mine
>>> will need
>>> about 5 lines in a CAT5 cable between A and B.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
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