Re: UK Newsgroups

["Quinten Uijldert" <yahoogroups@xxxxxxx>]

Because no one bothers to read those groups?

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark McCall
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] UK Newsgroups


It's had bugger all response on the uk.net.news.config group.  Why weren't
we told here?

M.





-----Original Message-----
From: Quinten Uijldert [mailto:yahoogroups@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 07 December 2001 13:02
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] UK Newsgroups

When can we vote? Definately a good group to have (won't leave this list
though :-) ).

Q.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark McCall
To: ukha_d Egroup
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:51 PM
Subject: [ukha_d] UK Newsgroups


Just noticed this was posted again on 20/11/01

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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following changes
in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:

create unmoderated newsgroup uk.tech.home-automation

Newsgroup line:
uk.tech.home-automation                       Home Automation in the UK


*** ALL DISCUSSION MUST TAKE PLACE IN UK.NET.NEWS.CONFIG ***

This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Further procedural details are given below.

RATIONALE: uk.tech.home-automation

Home Automation, whilst widespread in the USA, is a new and fast
emerging technology in the UK.

Whilst the comp.home.automation newsgroup already exists for global
discussion on this subject, due to differing international electrical
and telecom standards, much of the information discussed here is not
relevant to the UK and is dominated by US discussions, causing a lot
of UK questions to go unanswered, thus making this group desirable.

This proposal was originally raised on 8th January 2001 by Lyndon
Watkins.  The ensuing discussion got bogged down in more general
matters of whether uk.* groups should cover the same subject matter as
Big8 groups and whether people should just use a mailing list instead.

The proponent was interested in the group then and still is now.
Duplication of Big8 groups but with a local focus has never been an
issue within uk.*, it happens a lot and it usually works.  Mailing
lists are not usenet and while they have their place, this area is not
specialised nor the interested parties identifiable enough to make it
a useful alternative.

Therefore the proponent would like to reissue the proposal with the
hope of gaining an indication of how many people would be actually
genuinely interested in using the group.  If this number is greater
than the 12 required for creation, then that alone should be
sufficient to warrant the creation of this well placed, well specified
group.  Preferably before the proponent starts placing large orders
for X10 gear...

END RATIONALE

CHARTER: uk.tech.home-automation

uk.tech.home-automation is for the discussion of all aspects of Home
Automation within the UK.

Advertising

Advertising is forbidden, with these exceptions:

Suppliers of goods and services relevant to UK specification home
automation related products may post an invitation to visit their
special offers, web site or request details.  It should be of six
lines or fewer and not posted more than once every month.  The subject
line should begin "ADVERT: ", except for vacancy adverts, when it
should begin "JOB: ".

Binaries & Formatting

Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are
forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a
pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used
where authentication is important and should be as short as possible.

Posts must be readable as plaintext. HTML, RTF and similarly formatted
messages are prohibited. To see how to make your newsreader comply
with this, read <http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.

Warning

Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to their
"postmaster" and/or Service Provider.

END CHARTER

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of
the process, any potential problems with the proposal should be raised
and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 10
days, starting from when this RFD is posted to uk.net.news.announce
(i.e. until December 1st) after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be
posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.
Alternatively, the proposal may proceed by the fast-track method.  Please
do not attempt to vote until this happens.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the "Guidelines for Group
Creation
within the UK Hierarchy" as published regularly in
uk.net.news.announce.
Please refer to this document if you have any questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
uk.net.news.announce
uk.net.news.config
uk.tech.electronic-security
uk.tech.misc
uk.comp.misc
uk.comp.home-networking
comp.home.automation

Proponent:
Claire Speed <perdita@xxxxxxx>