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Thanks for all the info Rich.
It looks like it's more effort than it's worth, but I just couldn't bear
to=
see it go in the skip ;-)
Neil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Richard Challis=20
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Anyone int automation PLC's?
Hi Neil,
Sorry, by pods I mean the communication adaptors t get your PC t ta=
lk t the PLC - Quite a few manufacturers PLC's require this adaptor
normal=
ly t adapt RS232 t RS485 (normally a butchered version) or t their own
c=
omms standard (ie Siemens - MPI for the S7 series, Allen Bradley PIC
adapto=
rs for the "bottom range" t 1000 UKP adaptors for the higher
end)
I have used PLC's in the past to do things around the house, I've sti=
ll got a 160 I/O PLC sat on the stairs for me t find some way of
interfaci=
ng its I/O t the homevision. I found because of their way of thinking (ie
=
you have to develop everything from scratch and some don't have a realtime
=
clock) even through I can write their code (Rung Ladder Logic normally,
but=
statement list for the Siemens) without thinking, the Home vision is much =
better because it nativally understands IR, timeing and compensates for
the=
changing time of dusk etc.
The last two houses I've been in have had PLC installs but in this cu=
rrent house I've not bothered and stuck t the HV. Quite irronic when I
hav=
e several boxes of PLC's sat about "for me t get around tuit"!
(and I own =
the software and the various pods t talk t the creatures!)
Regards
Rich (Who has put this out t the list as it may be of interest to =
others who may be considering a PLC)
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil F <automated@xxxxxxx>
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Date: 01 July 2001 15:00
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Anyone int automation PLC's?
Thanks Rich
I'll see what I can find out in work...if they had the unit, they shoul=
d have the disk / manual / lead anyway!
I don't understand what you mean by by pods? this has a row of input an=
d output terminals that can be wired t relays etc.
thanks
Neil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Richard Challis=20
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Anyone int automation PLC's?
I've spent the last 3 years as a Automation/Software engineer program=
ming a range of PLC's
Mitsi, Tele, AB, Siemens.
One of the problems is the cost of the pods required t talk t them.
I will ask at my old work place (I resigned from my current work plac=
e yesterday, so I'm not going t get any help from them!) for the serial
ca=
ble details.
Documentation and software might be an issue. There is a chance there=
might be an old licance/documentation hanging arround.
What PLC's are you used t programming? I might be able t come acros=
s an old box that you might be more familular with.
Regards
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil F <automated@xxxxxxx>
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Date: 01 July 2001 11:00
Subject: [ukha_d] Anyone int automation PLC's?
Has anyone used a PLC for automation at home? I've rescued an old T=
elemecanique TSX-17 off the scrap pile in work and I am looking for
documen=
tation and software t program it from my PC.
Can anyone provide ANY useful information / experiences with PLC's?
thanks
Neil
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http://www.automatedhome.co.uk
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for all the info
Rich.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It looks like it's more effort
than it's worth, but
I just couldn't bear to see it go in the skip ;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Neil</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=richard@xxxxxxx
href="mailto:richard@xxxxxxx";>Richard
Challis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ukha_d@xxxxxxx
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B>
Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:36 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [ukha_d] Anyone int
automation PLC's?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hi
Neil,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
<FONT color=#000000>Sorry,
by pods I mean the communication adaptors t get your PC t talk t the PLC
-
Quite a few manufacturers PLC's require this adaptor normally t adapt
RS232
t RS485 (normally a butchered version) or t their own comms standard (ie
Siemens - MPI for the S7 series, Allen Bradley PIC adaptors for the
"bottom
range" t 1000 UKP adaptors for the higher
end)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
I have used PLC's in the
past to do things around the house, I've still got a 160 I/O PLC sat on the
stairs for me t find some way of interfacing its I/O t the homevision. I
found because of their way of thinking (ie you have to develop everything
from
scratch and some don't have a realtime clock) even through I can write
their
code (Rung Ladder Logic normally, but statement list for the Siemens)
without
thinking, the Home vision is much better because it nativally understands
IR,
timeing and compensates for the changing time of dusk
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
The last two houses I've
been in have had PLC installs but in this current house I've not bothered
and
stuck t the HV. Quite irronic when I have several boxes of PLC's sat about
"for me t get around tuit"! (and I own the software and the
various pods t
talk t the creatures!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
Rich (Who has
put this out t the list as it may be of interest to others who may be
considering a PLC)</FONT></DIV>
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solid">
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Neil F <<A
href="mailto:automated@xxxxxxx";>automated@xxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B><A href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>
<<A
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>01 July 2001 15:00<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re:
[ukha_d] Anyone int
automation PLC's?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks
Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll see what I can find out in
work...if they
had the unit, they should have the disk / manual / lead
anyway!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't understand what you mean
by by pods?
this has a row of input and output terminals that can be wired t relays
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Neil</FONT></DIV>
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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=richard@xxxxxxx
href="mailto:richard@xxxxxxx";>Richard
Challis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ukha_d@xxxxxxx
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B>
Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:23
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [ukha_d] Anyone int
automation PLC's?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I've spent the last 3 years as
a
Automation/Software engineer programming a range of
PLC's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Mitsi, Tele, AB,
Siemens.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>One of the problems is the cost of the pods
required t
talk t them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I will ask at my old work place (I resigned
from my
current work place yesterday, so I'm not going t get any help from them!)
for the serial cable details.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Documentation and software might be an issue.
There is a
chance there might be an old licance/documentation hanging
arround.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>What PLC's are you used t
programming? I
might be able t come across an old box that you might be more familular
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Neil F
<<A
href="mailto:automated@xxxxxxx";>automated@xxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B><A href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>
<<A
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>01 July 2001 11:00<BR><B>Subject: </B>[ukha_d]
Anyone int
automation PLC's?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone used a PLC for
automation at
home? I've rescued an old Telemecanique TSX-17 off the scrap pile in
work and I am looking for documentation and software t program it from
my PC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can anyone provide ANY useful
information /
experiences with PLC's?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Neil</FONT></DIV><BR><TT><BR><BR>____________________________________<BR>Automated
Home UK<BR><A
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