RE: Sky+ vs Tivo (was A couple of quick cabling questions)

["Kenneth Watt" <kennwatt@xxxxxxx>]

Tim,

AFAIK and can glean from various reviews the two things that let's Tivo
down against Sky+ is the obvious PDC control that is badly needed on
Tivo, I admit and, the ability to receive two Sky channels, one for
recording and one for watching. However Sky are supposed to be charging
a premium for that service and, knowing Sky, it won't be cheap as it
involves the facility to receive, basically, two signals from the Astra
satellite.=20

On the other hand Sky+ lacks the intuitive abilities of Tivo and the
understandable menus.

I'll reserve judgement until I see Sky+ though, which at the moment
looks to be a ways off. From what I hear the uptake on it has been worse
that Tivo!

K.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Morris [mailto:timothy.morris@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 13 October 2001 13:12
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Sky+ vs Tivo (was A couple of quick cabling
questions)
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> If you ever really want to lose the will to live go and have a look at
the
> uk.media.tv.sky newsgroup. It tends to be populated by small minded
geeks
> (who rate Buffy and Star Trek as the pinnacle of small screen
> entertainment - OK I think they're both OK, but not a patch on
programs
> like
> Band of Brothers ;-) (And I've got most of the recent Star Trek movies
on
> DVD). They spend most of their time scoring cheap points off each
other,
> but
> ocaisionally there's some interesting info on there.
>=20
> The Tivo vs Sky+ debate seems to resemble the Mac vs PC debate, with
Tivo
> users playing the part of the "Mac evangelists".
>=20
> For someone like me who has a subscription to Sky World but spends 80%
of
> his viewing time watching BBC1, BBC2 and C4 I can see a real advantage
to
> the Sky+ box to take care of conflicts (I don't have a terrestrial
tuner
> for
> TV so Sky is my only picture source.)
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> I also hear that there is a software update due early next year which
will
> allow recording of two Sky channels at once (obviously if you want to
> watch
> as well, you have to watch one of the channels that is being
recorded).
> The
> hard disk is simply a blank FAT32 disk, and can be upgraded without
> fiddling
> with the Operating System, so there is an upgrade path as disk real
estate
> continues to get cheaper.
>=20
> If Sky do actually plough some of the Sky+ tenner a month
subscriptions
> back
> into the software, then it could end up being a world beater (rather
than
> an
> egg beater). I just wish they'd make one in black!
>=20
> Only time will tell, I'm holding back for two reasons - firstly it is
> really
> buggy at the moment, and secondly I want one in black.
>=20
> Did I mention that I want one in black?
>=20
> Tim.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nigel Giddings [mailto:nigel.giddings@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 13 October 2001 12:48
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] A couple of quick cabling questions
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Can't comment on the cable but I would suggest you run 2 co-axs
as
you
> may
> > decide to go with Sky Plus, its like TiVo with 2 built in Sky
receivers
> so
> > you can watch one channel while you record another. I don't have
> > one (yet?)
> > but a friend who has TiVo and Sky Plus says that TiVo is much
> > better except
> > for the fact that you can watch and record at the same time with
Sky
> Plus.
> >
> > I have a TiVo at home and never (rarely) watch 'Live TV' its all
via
the
> > TiVo so the dual receiver is not that much of an advantage.
> >
> > Just my Two Penneths worth.
> >
> > Nigel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Paterson (Pixi) [mailto:david.paterson@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 13 October 2001 12:25
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ukha_d] A couple of quick cabling questions
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm thinking about getting Sky Digi in, and I'd like to pre-wire
to
> > where my TV is so I don't have holes drilled where I don't want
them.
> >
> > I know a few people have mentioned the B & Q version of CT100
cable
> > (DCT100) in the past, but has anyone installed this, and is it OK
to
> > use?
> >
> > Also, if you've done this pre-wiring for Sky, what connectors
should
I
> > put on the dangly end and the wall plate?  I'd guess at an F
connector
> > in the loft, but any info would be appreciated.
> >
> > On a related-ish note, I was browsing round B & Q the other
day (as
you
> > do :-) and noticed they had something that looked suspiciously
like
CAT5
> > cable, marked as D4PAIR, or BT CW1308 equivalent at about =A321 a
reel.
> > Does anybody know if this is high enough quality to use for
networking/
> > video/KAT5 type of applications, or should I order kosher CAT5?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David P.
> >
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