Don't
you dare appologise Mark ...
... I
didn't order a camera but in some ways wish I had because I'd have enjoyed
the
ensuing "ruck". Maybe I am a neanderthal "regular" but even though I have
had
nothing to do with the Kodak thread I haven't been at all bothered by
having to
wade through the emails. The next time I find a "bargain" then I
will
post it up here as most of the people here have similar tastes and so what
I consider a great deal then many others will.
I've
been using dail up via a modem recently and don't find the download times
to be
excessive and if there's stuff that doesn't interest me then the delete key
is
always handy ... easy!
Phil
As the original poster of the Kodak camera
offer
to this group I must apologise, it was not HA related, but I know a lot of
people here like their gadgets and a bargain gadget is almost irresistible.
But sometimes these offers are too good to be true. I am not disappointed
that
I did not get a camera. Heck, I did not even need it, but I cannot resist a
bargain. All this talk of involving trading standards, small claims etc. is
a
bit over the top for an offer that did seem a bit
dodgy. There
are lots of discussions about this elsewhere on the net and I agree with
Julian that this is off topic for this group.
Having said that I do enjoy this group for its
non HA content and "comical wit".
Thanks
Mark Hopley
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:54
AM
Subject: [ukha_d] [OT] WTF is
happening
to ukha_d?
When I first joined this groudid seemp I wthatas greeted
with open arms and received some great help from various apresentre to
good to be trueindividuals with regards to my new house build and the
ideas I had. That was about five months ago...
Over the past two
days
there has been 175 posts to this group regarding Kodak cameras, wasting
(yes wasting) ~1797034bytes (1.71megs) of bandwidth per user. With 429
registered users, that more data than you can fit on a CD being
basically
wasted by the rants and complaints of a pile of people who honestly have
nothing better to do than complain and/or create idle
chit chat.
I
suspect that 350+ users in this group don't really care whether you got
in on the Kodak web-sham or whether your complaints get replied to by
the
other people who ordered cameras. I would suggest however, that you take
this conversation to another board, which actually has some relevance to
digital cameras/Kodak/legal wrangling as I honestly don't think this is
the place... I can bet the first thing some people will think is "this
is
a one off, this volume of Spam only happens once in a while", but it
does
happen and it will happen more as this group turns from an email forum
into email based IRC...
On another note, Stuart Poulton's comments
about the amount of white noise on this group was extremely accurate.
His
comment "I'm not complaining, but I'm sure that the noise on the e-mail
now exceeds the content contained within." is most defiantly true. As a
few of you did with Stuarts email, I suspect you will either take the
pish out of this email or get extremely arsey about it.
Mark's
comment "We had a big discussion on this not that long ago and
the consensus was pretty much the majority didn't want any change in the
"chat" on the list." is basically a crock. People who tend to voice
their
opinion on this matter are the regulars, who just drown out any valid
comments with childish banter and sheer volume of emails.
I
cannot
believe that 350+ people are receiving this group, and reading it with
delight at the comical wit and non-HA related banter that goes on
here. I
for one only read articles that don't have RE: in them until I find
a thread that is even worth looking. I prefer to put my brain in gear
and actively seek out the answers to my own networking problems,
bargains, news, reviews, software set up issues etc. There are a million
other boards/news groups/yahoo groups/irc channels that can help out
with
these problems, faster and more accurately, why do we have to bring it
to
a ukha_d ? Some of us get networking/os/install and internet stuffed in
our faces all day, why should we have to suffer this when we sit down in
the evening to read the days HA related info?
I wish that
anything
unrelated to HA could automatically be flagged as OT before it was sent
out to the rest of the members, or moderated in some way but you (the
majority of the vocal few) have all made your opinions clear, that you
want to stick with the Neanderthal that is yahoo groups...
I can see
a whole bunch of "why don't you just vote with your feet and unsubscribe
then" messages coming my way in the morning, but I will continue to read
this group and assist with HA stuff in any way I can.
If you agree
with me and wish to send support of what I have covered here, please
don't fill this group with replies, send me an email
to jules@xxxxxxx If you feel like flaming me, please don't
fill this newsgroup with replies, send me an educated, and thought out
email to jules@xxxxxxx I just feel sorry for the people who
only get to download this group every weekend on a 56k
modem...
Regards,
Jules
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