Re: Wiring light switches...

["psghome2002" <psghome@xxxxxxx>]

Thanks Ken,

I've set the schedule up in a similar way (using timers and only
sending X10 on initial ON and OFF). I guess my problem is still the
delay in Comfort - RS232 - HV. I'll let you know how it goes when I
connect directly to HV (although re-wiring needed if I eventually
change to this method - and it's only taken me 2 months so far!)

Paul.

--- In ukha_d@y..., "Kenneth Watt" <kennwatt@b...> wrote: > Paul,
>
> I have all the PIRs connected directly to the HV expansion board,
IIRC
> there are 10 PIRs connected and one pressure mat in terms of
occupancy
> detection and the schedule reads something like this from memory:
>
> If
>       Input Port D1 goes high
>       And time is after sunset and before sun= rise
>       And Flag XXXX is clear
>       And timer PIR timer (for this PIR) is n= ot running
> Then
>       X10 A1: Lounge lamps On
>       Set X10 device A1 directly to level 32<= BR> >       Load Timer PIR timer (for this PIR) wit= h 2.30 and start
> End if
> If
>       timer PIR timer (for this PIR) is runni= ng
> Then
>       Stop timer PIR timer (for this PIR)
>       Load Timer PIR timer (for this PIR) wit= h 2.30 and start
> End if
> If
>       Input Port D1 goes high
>       And time is after sunset and before sun= rise
>       And Flag XXXX is set
>       And timer PIR timer (for this PIR) is n= ot running
> Then
>       X10 A1: Lounge lamps On
>       Set X10 device A1 directly to level 20<= BR> >       Load Timer PIR timer (for this PIR) wit= h 2.30 and start
> End if
>
> In this way you can control the level of lighting dependant on the flag
> or, indeed, another X10 device, simply insert the "and X10 device=
XXX is
> on" or off instead of a flag.
>
> This also saves HV sending out X10 commands repeatedly by using a
timer,
> so the commands are more accurate and tend to get through, in my
place,
> I would reckon it works 99.9999999% of the time ;). By using the
> dependant on the timer thing the way I do, HV sends no signal
unless
> there is no movement detected for more than, in this case, two
minutes
> thirty seconds and only then sends an OFF command. If the PIR is
tripped
> while the timer is running then HV simply cancels the timer and
restarts
> it, loops and repeats until it detects no movement. Repeating the
ON
> command seems a common mistake and if HV is trying to fire out
signals
> repeatedly then this will cause huge delays due the traffic on the
> powerline of X10 commands, this was designed to get around that
problem.
>
> HTH
>
> K.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: psghome2002 [mailto:psghome@h...]
> > Sent: 18 July 2002 12:20
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx > > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Wiring light switches...
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > What X10 command do you use - I've used the standard ON command <= BR> and
> > the 'Set X10 device directly to' command. Both seem to take the <= BR> same
> > amount of time.
> >
> > I've got a pretty big setup here and am limited by the number of<= BR> > > zones or inputs to Comfort / HomeVision. I've currently got 32 > > Comfort zones active and am planning to connect my A/V matrix
> > switcher and mic mixer logic terminals to HV. That equals a lot <= BR> of
> > inputs, more than I've got even with the expansion board
connected :(
> >
> > I was trying to keep the cost as low as I can (even then I've spent
> > way over =A315K so far!) and using Comfort for the dual purpose o= f
> > alarm and lighting triggering is ideal (and it works well apart <= BR> from
> > the speed). However, I need to check exactly how long it takes > > Comfort to send the serial report to HV (no ACE in the loop for > > this - a direct connection from Comfort to a second serial port <= BR> on
> > HV).
> >
> > I'll try the direct PIR - HV input and see if this improves the <= BR> time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@y..., "Kenneth Watt" <kennwatt@b...>= ; wrote:
> > > Paul,
> > >
> > > I think your problem with response times could be down to th= e
way
> > you
> > > are getting HV to send the on command. I have PIRs connected=
> > directly to
> > > HV, no Comfort in the way or a PC, you walk into the room an= d
the
> > lights
> > > come on in well under a second, in fact it's almost
instantaneous,
> > Phil
> > > has seen this in action too, he can confirm this if he reads=
it.
> > >
> > > In many rooms, such as my AV room or the bathroom, all I nee= d
to
> > do is
> > > wave at the PIR and the lights come on. I have said before, = I
> > rarely
> > > touch a light switch in the house, or an X10/momentary switc= h,
> > virtually
> > > everything is either off a PIR or done by IR in some cases.<= BR> > > >
> > > Having said that, I have noticed a huge difference between > > different
> > > PIRs and, additionally if HV is stuffed full of conditions t= o
> > check then
> > > the response time drops. Also if you read the command to Comfort,
> > then
> > > to ACE and then to HV then, inevitably, there will be a huge=
delay
> > in
> > > that and one I would not find acceptable never mind SWMBO! ;= )
> > >
> > > Not having Comfort (yet) I've never tried routing PIRs throu= gh
> > another
> > > machine and, even if/when I install Comfort I would not choo= se
to
> > go
> > > down that route simply due to the problems you describe.
> > >
> > > K.
> >
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