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RE: Embedded web server with serial out?


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  • Subject: RE: Embedded web server with serial out?
  • From: "Kevin Hawkins" <lists@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:32:37 +0100
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    Mark - in both these cases you are going to need a bi-directional serial connection and that makes the SitePlayer solution more awkward.
    SitePlayer effectively handles all the network layer stuff for you and has inbuilt memory to store web pages which it can serve. Although it has a bi-directional serial port  it was intended to interface to another processor e.g. a PIC that would then interface to your external hardware. The PIC would handle the 'conversation' as there is really no logic control  available inside the SitePlayer. SitePlayer can display values from data that it receives over the serial port embedded in its web pages. However they have to be presented in a slightly involved way which is the PIC's task. Sending data out is very much easier - you can just put it in the http header that you send to SitePlayer and it will send it out for you, or you can pass it as a UDP packet but you lose the guaranteed delivery mechanism and every request is ad hoc as compared with a session level protocol.
    It sounds like you really need the Telnet product that SitePlayer will provide shortly as it would make it much easier to handle the hardware side. Then your software application can all be developed on the PC - no PIC knowledge required. 
    IIRC There is a software product around that would allow you to use a remote PC's serial port from your PC via a telnet connection and Mark has just posted to this list re his own intentions. I do not however know of any software available that allows serial port sharing between networked PC's at a true port emulation level - i.e. so you could just fire up the HV software and redirect the port to a remote PC. The Rocket product and the Amplicon product (both hardware) I think do provide this - at a cost - I am quite surprised there is no low cost / shareware offering - if you find one let me know. Maybe Mark could provide such a solution but I think the overhead of this lower level of development becomes significant.
    BTW You know that with the latest HV software you can site your HV controller on a remote machine and connect to it via the HV application >from nk at the application level though. (Same with SlinkE - it has a remote server component).
 
    Kevin
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Harrison [mailto:Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 June 2002 16:55
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] Embedded web server with serial out?

Kevin,

Homevision is one of the devices, and a processor is the other (a Meridian in my case, rather than a TM)_...
 
I don't suppose you'd care to set up a nice web page with a "dummies guide to using Siteplayer to control..."
 
Like TM, Meridian is open about the serial command protocol. No Linn secrecy here :-)
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hawkins [mailto:lists@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wed 05/06/2002 16:40
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
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Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Embedded web server with serial out?

Mark -
 
    I am playing with SitePlayers, I got a dev kit and some modules- I think Keith got some too. - Haven't got too far into them yet due to time constraints but my HomeVision embedded web server is based on one (via the serial port) and also I have connected one to my TagMclaren AV setup via the TagLink (serial) interface.
 
    Certainly if your main aim is to send serial data out via a web interface or UDP then the SitePlayer is ideal - reading data back is very cumbersome though.
 
    There will (may) be some new firmware for the SitePlayer modules to allow connection of a serial device via telnet - this may be even better for you - however it has been a long time promised - but at $29.95 it will be a very cost effective solution - and they are tiny - and use much less power than the full motherboard solution.
 
    Kevin
 -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Harrison [mailto:Mark.Harrison@xxxxxxx]
Siteplayer looks possible. Anyone actually using one?

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