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RE: lens's / holders / whatever you may call them


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  • Subject: RE: lens's / holders / whatever you may call them
  • From: "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:56:09 +0100
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Richard,
What's the angle in normal, recessed halogen light?
I would like to know how many white LEDs I need to get equivalent of 50W halogen light.
We need to find lumen details somewhere, probably on the packaging box.
Cheers,
Nik
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Chilton [mailto:richard.chilton@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 06 September 2002 20:43
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] lens's / holders / whatever you may call them

Candelas are lumens per steradian, so to convert between lumens and candela you need to know the angle the beam of light spreads over in steradians. The equation is:
 
    lumens = candela * angle_in_steradian
 
Apparantly to approximately convert degrees to steradian, multiply the square of the angle by 0.00024
 
So, for a 9000mcd 18 degree LED, I calculate 0.7 lumens
 
I'd be interested to know how many lumens your lamps are rated at, and what beam angle they have, just to see if theory vaguely intersects with reality :o) 
 
 
Cheers,
 
Rich.
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nikola Kasic [mailto:nikola@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 06 September 2002 13:55
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: RE: [ukha_d] lens's / holders / whatever you may call them

Thanks Tim,
Fitting 18 Leds in a halogen fitting will not be easy. And it's still just 20W equivalent.
But I will not ditch idea yet. I think that they are constantly developing stronger and stronger leds.
Do you have an idea how Candelas transform into lumens?
I have som light bulbs at home which are rated in lumens. What's mesured in Lumens and what in Candelas?
Cheers,
Nik
-----Original Message-----
From: Hawes,Timothy Edward (GEG) [mailto:haweste@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 06 September 2002 12:31
To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] lens's / holders / whatever you may call them

Hi Nik,
 
I read on one of the (many) LED sites that 18 LEDs are equivalent to a 20W halogen. It was all very vague since it didn't state the type of LEDs, their mcd rating, viewing angle etc, all of which will make a difference in how the light is "delivered" from the fitting.
 
I'll let you know if we come up with anything worth "publishing" ;-)
 
Cheers,
 
Tim H. 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Nikola Kasic

Please, let me know if any of your ideas materialize. I would like to buy a white LED array (10 leds) and put it in LV halogen fitting, but I am not sure if they can generate enough light.
If you make anything like that let me know if it can be compared to normal halogen bulb.
Cheers,
Nik
-----Original Message-----
From: Hawes,Timothy Edward (GEG)

A mate & I have been talking about this for a little while. One idea we liked was taking the surround from a mains or LV halogen fitting (the bit that fits into the ceiling) and replacing the normal bulb with a circular piece of plexiglass, drilled with a number of holes to suit the OD of the LEDs. There's a number of other options / variations, such as fitting frosted (plexi)glass in front of the LED array, making your own reflectors, cannibalising an old halogen bulb assy. and substituting the bulb-part with LEDs.
 
Alternatively, we've considered simply replacing the capsule bulb in the regular under-cabinet light fittings since this includes a reflector.
 
As for other online ideas try googling (google.com) with LED lighting / lamps / lights etc. - that should keep you busy for a while ;-)
 
Cheers,
 
Tim H.
-----Original Message-----
From: TAWN Jonathan

I found this url while browsing for 5 mins,

 

http://www.theledlight.com/interior.html

 

the 'moonglow' and 'comet' are the type of thing I'm after (except at $30 cost too much!)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: TAWN Jonathan  

  

As some of you, like myself have gone and put our names down for the bulk-buy LED's...

 

I'm a little unsure of mounting these, the purpose of me using these is to go on the edge of the stairs, to illuminate every other step. The idea of having some standard bezels is very un-attractive.

 

What I'm after is some idea's / url's / images / thoughts of what could be a suitable, and of course, aesthetically pleasing devices ! I know some of you have bought these for use in the garden, so any idea's on those would be great too (I've ordered 30 in total .. so they need using !)

 

Ta,

Jonathan.


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