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Re: Momentary switches


  • To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: Momentary switches
  • From: "egelbeertje" <r_d_k@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:06:08 -0000
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Mark,

I'm currently using the 10Amp pushbutton style, since they look
exactly as a normal on/off toggle, except they don't rocker - you
push on the bottom (about.5 cm, then it springs back) the 6 amp
pushbutten style looks a bit like a doorbell and is typically used
for a timer style large apartment block thing (guess they're more
vadalism proof since the switch plate is quite easily removed with a
small screwdriver clip underneath)
Also they come in different models single switch per gang box in
normal open (if you push you make contact) or in NO/NC combination so
you can also use them to cut a signal which sometimes can be handy.
(a concealed panic alarm switch next to your bedside or so)

if you hook up the light to the din rail, and you have neutral and
phase at your din module available, all you need is a 220v pulse on
the din module L2 input - I routed 2 wires from every din module to
every switch (coming from the phase connector from the din module,
switch, going back to L2 on din module) this way - by adding the 2
wires down the tube - it keeps options open to restore to normal
toggle switches if ever needed. I can mail you some pdf's of my
wiring schematics if interested.

rgds Rob,


--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Mark Taylor <mhctaylor@y...> wrote:
> Rob
>
> these look really nice - is there a UK disti? I take
> it the push button model is the momentary switch?
>
> Also I now need to re ask the wiring question. If I
> put a dinrail module in my consumer unit for my lounge
> lighting what wiring do I run? I understand wire run
> from din to light (run of transformers) but what is
> the wiring to from switch?
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
>  --- egelbeertje <r_d_k@h...> wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> I'm using the NIKO brand PR20 style switches/sockets.
> Very reliable/easy to install/lots of faceplate
> combinations/colours.
>
> http://www.niko.be/main/fs_module.asp?reference=2-
1&country=4&lang=EN
>
> rgds Rob
>
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Mark Taylor
> <mhctaylor@y...> wrote:
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Any chance of a model no. as they have 100s of items
> > to trawl through. Sorry to be lazy :-)
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >  --- hholohan2000 <helen@v...> wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > I just got a nice one from the Legrand Mosaic range
> > yesterday, very
> > sleek, no screws visible.
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Mark Taylor
> > <mhctaylor@y...> wrote:
> > > Very nice indeed - unfortunately I dont do Italian
> > :-(
> > >
> > > These are the sort of thing that would convince me
> > to
> > > go X10!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >  --- egelbeertje <r_d_k@h...> wrote:
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Nice Italian designs : (CE approved so should be
> > > available in UK as
> > > well)
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.bticino.it/bticino/enduser/prodotti/1127_grafiti.jhtml;jses
> > > sionid=0UYMN0YVU5KDKCQ52EKSFEQ
> > >
> > >
> > > rgds,
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Paul"
> <groups@s...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > A momentary switch is one that only makes
> contact
> > > for as long as
> > > you push/pull or otherwise interact with it. The
> > > dimmer switch that
> > > you mention won't be momentary - push and it makes
> > > contact
> > > (permanently) until you push it again and it
> breaks
> > > contact - a
> > > toggle action.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Momentary switches aren't too common as the vast
> > > majority of
> > > lighting systems don't operate in this way. You
> tend
> > > to find these
> > > switches being used for 'bell push' or other
> > signaling
> > > applications,
> > > which is why a lot of them to be found in
> electrical
> > > wholesalers
> > > have 'push' or pictures of bells on them! They
> tend
> > to
> > > have a high
> > > push resistance (i.e. stiff) in my experience.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Two makes that are widely used in HA are the
> type
> > > Clipsal and
> > > Wandsworth make.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have the Wandsworth make all around my house.
> > IMO
> > > they're far
> > > more aesthetic that the plastic clipsal ones and
> > come
> > > in a huge range
> > > of finishes (I have the solid metal brushed
> > aluminium
> > > type). Pics on
> > > the Yahoo group pics page or on my HA pics
> website:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.siliconpixel.com/Gallery/HomeAutomation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (in the crown mic album)
> > > >
> > > > Paul.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mhctaylor [mailto:mhctaylor@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > Sent: 03 June 2003 21:22
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [ukha_d] Momentary switches
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The age old ugly switch issue.
> > > >
> > > > As an ignoramous what makes a switch momentary?
> Is
> > a
> > > dimmer switch
> > > > that you push on and off rather than turn on and
> > off
> > > momentary???
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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