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RE: Re: So cool!



Your right David

There are huge similarities between S.craft and Xantech kit.
But no RS232 on the Easy6 :-(

Many thanks

Rob Mouser
rmouser@xxxxxxx
rob@xxxxxxx


> -----Original Message-----
> From: the_home_automator [mailto:db@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 10 March 2003 23:35
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: So cool!
>
> This easy 6 thing looks very similar to the Xantech ZPR68.  The
> Xantech unit has an RS232 port, and supports direct volume select,
> and querying of what the volme (or other stuff) is set to. It could
> do the audio end of the air guitar scenario described.
>
> Given the propensity for Xanech, Speakercraft and ChannelPlus stuff
> to be identical, has the easy 6 not got the RS232 port?   If it has,
> get the docs from the Xantech site on how to use it, and give it a go!
>
> David
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Rob Mouser" <rmouser@t...>
wrote:
> > No :-(
> >
> > The zone remembers its last volume level, but I guess that's no
> good if
> > you've been 'air guitaring' to Metallica the last time you were
in
> the
> > room!
> >
> > You can also set the maximum input (From a source) and output (To
an
> > amp) using small 'pots'. So.... I guess you could use a source
> input for
> > TTS preventing it from being too loud, but then it conversely may
> be to
> > quiet to hear if the zone volume is low.
> >
> > Do you have a zone off function? Thinking out loud here but what
if
> you
> > linked a zone off function with a volume down. This would be the
> first
> > macro. Then link a zone on + a specific volume up level which
would
> be
> > linked to you TTS command. Don't know how your Kustom unit works
> but in
> > my set up those actions would be very fast as you can
on/off/change
> > source very quickly with IR.
> >
> > So this would give you:
> >
> > Music going full pelt. Maybe Joe Satriani, Flying in a Blue
Dream!
> (One
> > of my favourite air guitar albums :-)). Your giving the air
guitar
> full
> > wammy.
> > TTS event cuts in.
> > Zone off (Could perhaps put volume down command first so it does
not
> > just cut.)
> > Zone On + Volume up.
> > TTS announced.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Rob Mouser
> > rmouser@t...
> > rob@m...
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx...]
> > > Sent: 10 March 2003 09:44
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] So cool!
> > >
> > > Do the pre-amps have discreet volume control i.e. can you
set a
> > > particular level instantaneously?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is one of the biggest problems I've got - how to set
the
> correct
> > > level for HA spoken announcements (from ACE TTS). For
example, if
> I've
> > > been listening to loud music previously, the announcement
booms
> out
> > (not
> > > nice). The only way I can see of doing it is to turn the
volume
> down a
> > > set number of times and then back up again (takes a while
and is
> prone
> > > to failure I think).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A digital pre-amp would be nice! - with RS232 or other
control.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rob Mouser [mailto:rmouser@xxxxxxx...]
> > > Sent: 10 March 2003 09:08
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] So cool!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've got a Speakercraft Easy 6 (www.speakercraft.com). Its
> basically
> > an
> > > IR driven Pre-amp, which then drives 6 individual power amps
for
> each
> > > zone.
> > > It actually works REALLY well and because of its pre-amp
design I
> have
> > > lots of flexibility in terms of powering zones.
> > > The IR zoning always works faultlessly (I am using xantech
> > transmitters
> > > and receivers with it.)
> > >
> > > Sounds like I need to talk to Frank (Are you listening Frank
:-))
> > > The Easy 6 actually has the ability to accept a second IR
input
> (Via
> > is
> > > RJ45 port.) and has a pass through for the audio inputs for
> attaching
> > > say another Easy6 or a AV Amp. There's a pdf of the manual
on the
> > > speakercraft site.
> > >
> > > Had a reply from Speakercraft (Who BTW are VERY helpful) on
the IR
> > > expansion issue but just have not had time to implement and
to be
> > honest
> > > didn't fully understand the use of 'diodes' (I get a little
hazy
> when
> > > people talk about soldering irons :-)) I've copied it below:
> > >
> > > ---------------------------
> > > It would be possible to drive the IR zone data lines through
the
> RJ45
> > > data port ... but not with an ordinary single zone (multiple
> emitter)
> > > connecting block. To preserve IR routing, a 6 (or more)
output IR
> > router
> > > would be necessary (Xantech RT8).
> > >
> > > Six of the IR router outputs would be connected to the 6 IR
lines
> in
> > the
> > > RJ45 jack (pin-out attached). IR router commands from an IR
> receiver
> > in
> > > the home theatre room would, when macroed with the A/V
receiver's
> > source
> > > commands, select the desired source and control it through
the
> EZ6.
> > >
> > > If you are not concerned with routing, you could diode
connect
> (diode
> > > isolate)
> > > 6 outputs from a single zone connecting block (Xantech
791-44) and
> > > connect them to the same 6 pins on the Ez6 RJ45 jack. (Diode
> isolation
> > > is needed to prevent cross-feed between zones on the Ez6).
> > > --------------------------
> > >
> > > My aim is to eventually be able to control my multiroom via
the c-
> bus
> > > c-touch screens. Haven't really decided on how I will
interface
> > between
> > > c-bus and IR as yet as there is more than one way I could
go.
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
> > > Rob Mouser
> > > rmouser@t...
> > > rob@m...
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Paul [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > Sent: 10 March 2003 08:34
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] So cool!
> > > >
> > > > I did it with an opto isolated circuit that Frank
designed for
> me
> > and
> > > a
> > > > lot of playing (and measuring with a PC based
oscilloscope). I'm
> > going
> > > > to put some pics up on the web when I get a chance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What amp have you got?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rob Mouser [mailto:rmouser@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > Sent: 10 March 2003 06:57
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] So cool!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > How did you 'inject' your IR signal into your amp?
> > > >
> > > > (Writing with some envy as you have achieved something
on
> my 'to do'
> > > > list before me:-))
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Paul [mailto:groups@xxxxxxx...]
> > > > Sent: 09 March 2003 21:54
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [ukha_d] So cool!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Every now and then you have one of those moments when
you
> realise
> > that
> > > > HA is soooo good!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've now finished my circuit in 'inject' an IR signal
into the
> > control
> > > > lines of my multi zone house amp so I can control each
zone
> > > individually
> > > > (didn't have this feature as standard). Now using
NetRemote,
> Girder
> > > and
> > > > HomeVision I can sit in bed and switch sources, mute,
vol etc
> from
> > my
> > > > iPaq, laptop or Pronto (using the same .ccf file) -
combined
> with
> > > Vinyl
> > > > I can also select playlists from the 30,000+ MP3's.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I knew spending so much on all this stuff was worth it!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > :D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul.
> > > >
> > > >
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