Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

["Brian Milton" <bmilton@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:50:59 -0000
From: "John Nye" <lists@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

Found a link here http://www.michiganwireless.org/tools/Netstumbler/
Also found a forum that said ver 0.4.0 should work but can be a bit
unstabl=
e
they recommend running it for a while to see if it runs ok. But sure you
might as well use ver 0.3.30 since its avaible.
http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=3D13106

Download: http://tinyurl.com/5coq2
Forum: http://tinyurl.com/3m76v

Hope it helps

Brian

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Anyone got version 0.3.30 of netstumbler hanging around?=20
Cannot find it anywhere on the net.=20

Unfortunatly the latest version not compatible with my aged, ME Laptop -:(

John
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Jim Noble" <yahoo-groups@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Multiple Wireless AP working together?


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> John Nye wrote:
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> > something on it first though to tell which AP I'm picking up.
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> Try netstumbler, or something like that.
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> Jim
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Message: 10=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:59:39 -0000
From: "bensbarn2001" <ben.wilkinson@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Backing Up MP3's to DDS4


Rob,

Not sure what backup software you're running, but if you're running=20
an incremental backup, it should only pick up files which have=20
changed since last backup, in which case you'd be fine if all you've=20
done is play a file.

The other thing you could do is just leave the drive waiting to=20
insert another tape for a day or two (I'm not sure why you want to=20
span it over a few days).=20=20

Ben

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Rob Mouser" <groups@m...> wrote:
> I have a DDS4 drive in my server and would like to run a routing=20
to back up
> my MP3's. The MP3 collection is around 55gb.
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> I realise I can easily run multiple tapes to back up parts of the=20
alphabet
> but what I would really like to do is have some way that I could=20
get it to
> intelligently back up the entire database in chunks over a few=20
days. I
> realise I could use append but I would end up with extra backups=20
of MP3's
> played since the last backup, I think? Or would the file have to=20
physically
> change to be picked up by an appended backup?
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> Not sure I have explained myself that well, but any comments=20
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Message: 11=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:43:27 -0000
From: "Phil Harris" <phil@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Plasma or LCD TV recommendation / advice


I have the 32" version of the Sharp - the 32GA4E (so mine has the
speakers
at the sides). It has a native panel resolution of 1366 x 768 pixels and I
just got my three year warranty paperwork through. Be aware that the three
year warranty was a limited time offer which has now expired and it's the
normal 12 months warranty now (anyway - the GA3/GA4 series LCDs are rare as
rocking horse sh*t now). I paid =A31379 for it.

LOOKS FECKING STUNNING DRIVEN BY THE HTPC!!!!

Phil=20

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> Sent: 24 January 2005 09:23
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Plasma or LCD TV recommendation / advice
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> it is a great unit, very bright and clear, with an RS232=20
> inteface as well.  If the bigger LCD sizes had been cheaper I=20
> would have gone bigger, but for now, its great.
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> bottom, not the side, so it looks a lot better too.
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> > > > ...LCD's are available up to 45" (OK - at a price)
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> > > > LCD is 1920 x 1080 resolution.
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> > > mode interlaced, so you are back where we are with analog TV
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> > That's only interlaced on Hi-Def broadcasts though ... It's
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Message: 12=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:56:36 +1300
From: Richard Malcolm-Smith <rich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HA enabled FISH TANK owners?

Paul Gordon wrote:

> I use a little APC backUPS desktop unit hidden away in the cupboard
that
> the tank sits on. Not really sure how long the max. runtime it will
give
> is, since we've never had an outage of more than a few minutes, -
> usually whilst work was being done that necessitated tripping the
> circuit breaker. Our grid supply is pretty reliable, in fact I don't
> think I can recall ever having a grid power outage in the 9 odd years
> I've lived here...
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> As for power consumption, there I have absolutely no idea! - I can't
> imagine its very much though...

Saying that is just asking for a 6 hr cut

I have had issues with powerheads burning out when running on inverter
powe=
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before, ended up with them so they wouldnt start reliably unless I gave
the=
m
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thump. Im assuming one of the coils burned out.

I am thinking of running some 2.5mm cable to each aquaruim location back to
a=20
cental location and getting a big 3kva ups for it sometime...


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Message: 13=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:04:15 +1300
From: Richard Malcolm-Smith <rich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

Tony Butler wrote:

>>I have this setup with two Linksys WRT54GS units.
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> Do you know if it's possible with the linksys and another make - I
have
the
> above, plus a draytek router with wireless 802.11g and I would like to
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> the wireless side also to increase coverage in the house.
> Do they need to sit on different channels, or can they be both on the
sam=
e
> channel but with some sort of funky setup to get them to work
together?

Possibly, but as far as im aware the linksys with the sveasoft firmware is
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only that will do spanning tree with bridging, the others requre you make
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that you dont set up any circular bridging so you may run into issues if
yo=
u
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more then 1 hanging off the AP in the draytek, and thats if it even works
a=
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all.

WDS is only standardised as far as the actual transmitted frames, the
attaching=20
to another AP to set the link up is not, that is why you have to put a
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bridge mac address in on most accesspoints. Sveasofts firmware has an
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that seems to set some of it up for you, but I have not tried that as I
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have one wrt54gs accesspoint, and its being used at the moment.




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Message: 14=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:06:25 +1300
From: Richard Malcolm-Smith <rich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

Mark McCall wrote:

> "Wireless Distribution System (WDS) allows you to make a
completely
wireless
> infrastructure. Normally, the access points must be connected with a
wire
> (LAN). These access points create cells allowing a wireless
connection.
The
> WDS feature allows the access points to be wirelessly connected. This
> feature is normally used in large, open areas where pulling a wire is
> restricted or not cost effective and in residential circumstances.
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> In a setup where there no wireless router, only a WAP, is only the
first
one
> connected to the wired side of the LAN?  Or can I have them all on the
wired
> LAN and still use the WDS feature?

WDS establishes another connection between the accesspoints that allow them
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send to each other, independent of the accesspoint function. If you have
cat5 in=20
all locations, just set the aps up with the same ssid and keys and you
should be=20
rocking, if they are connected by cable then you want to use different
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so activity on one AP doesnt slow down the others.


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Message: 15=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:09:29 +1300
From: Richard Malcolm-Smith <rich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

> Actually I meant if both cover the middle ground adequately, and
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> have the same SSID, channel etc, you could end up with a bit of a
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> at the point where the signal strengths are similar...?

It will associate with one or the other and be fine, it will usually hang
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n
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one ap till the signal from it gets too bad, then re-associate with the
better=20
one. There is no controlled handoff like there is on mobile phone systems
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the second one will see the device and arrange it to move. There will be=20
interuption to connectivity while the mobile PC changes accesspoints, but
a=
s

long as they are connected to the same ethernet segment then windows seems
to be=20
able to keep tcp sessions open across APs



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Message: 16=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:48:39 -0000
From: "Stuart Worrall" <stuart@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Combi Boiler and Smartfit

Make that another.  Im in Connah's Quay=20

Stu

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From: Mark Kaye [mailto:mark.kaye@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 24 January 2005 12:22
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Combi Boiler and Smartfit

John Nye wrote:
> So another HA'er in North Wales! I wonder where?

:)  Just outside of Cynwyd, Corwen.  You?





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Message: 17=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:54:44 +0000
From: Jim Noble <yahoo-groups@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

Richard Malcolm-Smith wrote:

> > Actually I meant if both cover the middle ground adequately, and
you
> > have the same SSID, channel etc, you could end up with a bit of a
clash
> > at the point where the signal strengths are similar...?
>
> It will associate with one or the other and be fine, it will
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> hang on to
> one ap till the signal from it gets too bad, then re-associate with=20
> the better
> one. There is no controlled handoff like there is on mobile phone=20
> systems where
> the second one will see the device and arrange it to move. There will
be
> interuption to connectivity while the mobile PC changes
accesspoints,=20
> but as
> long as they are connected to the same ethernet segment then
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> seems to be
> able to keep tcp sessions open across APs


Yup, but as you say elsewhere - different channels!

Jim


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