RE: Re: Advice on cheap data cabinets and rackmount switches....

["Paul Gordon" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Andy, - mean meaning to drop you a line for quite a while...

Re the 1U UPS's - another point I have discovered is that some don't have
enough load capacity for a PC with lots of drives in it! - I have an APC 1U
UPS that constantly shows an overload condition.. :-(

Actually, I have a few UPS's that I need to sort out... - I have a total of
3 APC 1U jobbies, one of them is this 250VA model here... http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SC250RMI1U
This one I bought brand new and is fine, - but can't run my servers because
of the overload described above...

I also (unintentionally) ended up with 2 of the 450VA models from the same
range: http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SC450RMI1U
which I "won" on Ebay... - inverted commas because one of them
was/is DOA and the seller basically shafted me.. :-(

I didn't actually intend to get 2 from Ebay, - I was bidding in 2 auctions
and I didn't expect to win both, but I did!

I only have 2U of rack space available anyway, so the fact that I have one
DOA isn't really a problem.. what I'd like to do though is to see if I can
get it running and use it instead of the 250 model... - when mains is
applied to it, there is a single audible click from inside, - sounds like a
relay switching. - There is no other sign of life, - no power at the
outlets, and no LED's lit at all... - I'm guessing these things are pretty
simple - some batteries, a control board, and I guess some mains PSU bits..
- what would you suggest I try to see if I can resurrect my dead one? - I
can use parts from the 250 model if they are interchangeable...

Many thanks..

PS, so you have any black rackmount UPS's - either 1U or 2U available?... -
I'd prefer to keep to black if poss, since everything in my rack is
black....

TIA

Paul G.



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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx on behalf of Andy Whitfield
Sent: Fri 21/10/2005 10:52
To: UKHA_D Group
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Advice on cheap data cabinets and rackmount
switches....



Hi
RE: UPS
Avoid 1U  UPSs for servers, PCs, etc for 2 reasons.  They don't have
much runtime as can't have many batteries in such a shallow case,
and secondly they tend to use batteries which are harder to get and
more expensive than the standard ones.
The shallow the UPS (low U number), the longer it tends to be from
from to back.  As Jim said think about rack depth.

As you might have guessed I am UPS Man.  ;-)
If anyone requires a UPS then send me an email at andy@xxxxxxx
or to andy@xxxxxxx or to the Yahoo address I
use here.
I will also have some Masterswitches soon for sale!
Regards
Andy

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "noel_pilot" <HA@a...> wrote:
>
> Hmmm depth,
> hadn't really thought of that one!
> Will be putting in a server case, the xcase 4U one that was used in
> the Jukebox server build article on this site.
> Advice anyone on the depth?
>
> Would you mind explaining the difference between managed and
unmanaged
> switches?!
>
> Cabinet will be to house server, switch, a shelf or two for router,
> adsl modem and print server, and anything else i can rackmount!!
> I guess the biggest will be the server pc and the UPS (altho the
UPS
> is a fair way in the future and I may well have upgraded the
cabinet
> by then!)
>
> Thanks
>
> Noel
>
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Jim Noble <yahoo-groups@b...> wrote:
> >
> > noel_pilot wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all,
> > > Well...looks like i'm nearly ready for my first data cabinet
and
> > > rackmount switch purchase!!
> > > Advice greatly appreciated on places to look and the
cheapest
possbile
> > > prices for a data cabinet, (something to sit on the desk so
maximum 80
> > > cm tall I guess)
> >
> >
> > The important question is how deep do you want it?
> >
> > My rack is 600x600mm, and I'm now looking to move up to a
800x800mm
> rack
> > because there isn't much room for the wiring behind the
rackmount PC,
> > and the UPS is every so slightly too long (haven't had the rear
door on
> > since putting it in there). The PC chassis is shorter than most
as well.
> >
> > OTOH, if it's just for a switch and some patch panels, you can
make do
> > with a lot shallower (300-450mm). In which case you probably
want to
> > look at wallmount style cabinets (even if you end up putting on
a
> > desktop) - they're a bit cheaper.
> >
> > Ebay is a good source for 2nd hand. New, I'd be looking at:
> >
> > www.millsltd.com
> > www.netshop.co.uk
> >
> >
> > > also need a rackmount switch too and again cheap as poss
please!!
> >
> >
> > Ebay again.
> >
> > > Is it possible to get a switch with say just one or two
gigabit ports
> > > in then the rest normal 10/100.
> >
> >
> > Yes. I have a Netgear FSM726S. 24 10/100 ports, and two copper
gigabit
> > ports, with the option of adding up to 2 fibre modules later.
> >
> > They also have a 24 port 10/100/1000 switch for similar money.
Neither
> > are particularly "cheap" though (but not bad for a
managed
switch).
> >
> > The suggestion to use separate cheap 10/100 and gigabit switches
is a
> > good one though!
> >
> > Jim
> >
>