RE: New Installations Trade

["Paul Gordon" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Danny,
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I have a few thoughts/opinions on this...
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To my mind the Home Automation market seems very clearly split into two
dis=
tinct camps...
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You have the full-on professional installations, done by the likes of
CEDIA=
members, using the tier-1 equipment suppliers such as AMX / Creston etc. T=
hese are top-dollar installs and are very firmly the preseve of the rich.
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ystem installation costs anywhere between =A310,000 - right up to
=A3100,00=
0 (and above!) for example. I'd suggest that most of the members of this
li=
st would love to be in this camp, but aren't... (I Think a few probably
are=
though...)
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Then there is the main area of focus for this group, which is the DIY
appro=
ach, using disparate components, cherry picked for their individual
perform=
ance characteristics and value for money. - so the likes of Homevision /
PC=
's / Sonos / X10 / CBUS / Comfort / Tivo and so on.... The single hardest
a=
spect of this space is tying it all together in a seamless manner,
providin=
g a consistent and convenient method of control... - this is the value-add
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that the CEDIA installers above bring to the party, however, they do
charge=
*royally* for the privellige, and they are fiercely protective of their co=
llateral. The group itself has spawned some efforts to alleviate this
short=
coming with the likes of the xPL & xAP protocols, which aim to provide
that=
glue, but I think even the most enthuisiatic proponents of those projects =
would admit that neither of them could yet claim to have produced a
"system=
" that can be "installed"... - they are still mainly in the
realms of the t=
echnical enthuisiast, and require quite a bit of technical knowledge and
ef=
fort to implement today. I believe (and I hope), that both of these (and
an=
y other projects with similar goals) will mature into a product
proposition=
that you can buy off the shelf, pay someone to install, and then leave you=
with a working system in much the same way as the CEDIA market operates, (=
albeit hopefully at a much lower cost!).
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There appears to be a vast yawning gap between these two extremes with
noth=
ing (that I'm aware of) filling that middle ground.... Although I think
the=
re are a *very* few systems/suppliers who are now just about starting to
gi=
ngerly take a few steps into this area, but to my knowledge there still
isn=
't someone I can go to and get them to supply, install, and commision a
ful=
ly-integrated HA system encompassing HVAC/lighting/Media/cabling and
contro=
l strategies and all for somewhere around the =A35000 (ish) mark...
If there were, I suspect I would be knocking on their door pretty
sharpish.=
.. ;-)
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Regards.
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Paul Gordon.

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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx on behalf of Danny Dawson
Sent: Thu 19/01/2006 16:41
To: UKHA_D Group
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New Installations Trade




Hi Mark,

We are a company that started about a year ago called Next Generation
Networks, we deal in comms at the minute, we are subcontracting for Marconi
on a military project as we are ex military, we started with them as soon
a=
s
we left the Army, we do not have website yet. We are looking to moveinto
th=
e
home automation market for low cost solutions. We see this as being a
marke=
t
that is going to boom in the next few years. We design and install
stucture=
d
cabng systems and networks, so that side of things is sorted,  just need
some products to look at and install. We have a couple of meetings with
suppliers lined up for next week. and we wanted to get a number of
options/products going. We are researchng the different types of
technologies at present. From what I have heard about X10, its not that
goo=
d
especially for commercial installs, have not really heard much about C-Bus?
We are going to see about AVnex next week. Any thing else you would
personally reccomend?

Thanks
Danny

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>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New Installations Trade
>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:20:06 -0000
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