RE: New Installations Trade

["Danny Dawson" <dannyd4315@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Paul,

Well thats what we aim to try and do. The sort of system you are talking
about for the price you are talking about. I think, as you say, if it was
available alot of people would be interested, its just trying to source and
research the equipment that can do all this. which is what we are trying to
do at the moment. I dont know if I am being over ambitious with the
above.Can only try. We want to bring professional home automation installs
to the working class like myself.

Regards
Danny Dawson


>From: "Paul Gordon" <paul@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>To: "UKHA_D Group" <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New Installations Trade
>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:47:49 -0000
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>Hi Danny,
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>I have a few thoughts/opinions on this...
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>To my mind the Home Automation market seems very clearly split into two
>distinct camps...
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>You have the full-on professional installations, done by the likes of
CEDIA
>members, using the tier-1 equipment suppliers such as AMX / Creston
etc.
>These are top-dollar installs and are very firmly the preseve of the
rich.
>System installation costs anywhere between £10,000 - right up to
£100,000
>(and above!) for example. I'd suggest that most of the members of this
list
>would love to be in this camp, but aren't... (I Think a few probably
are
>though...)
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>Then there is the main area of focus for this group, which is the DIY
>approach, using disparate components, cherry picked for their
individual
>performance characteristics and value for money. - so the likes of
>Homevision / PC's / Sonos / X10 / CBUS / Comfort / Tivo and so on....
The
>single hardest aspect of this space is tying it all together in a
seamless
>manner, providing a consistent and convenient method of control... -
this
>is the value-add that the CEDIA installers above bring to the party,
>however, they do charge *royally* for the privellige, and they are
fiercely
>protective of their collateral. The group itself has spawned some
efforts
>to alleviate this shortcoming with the likes of the xPL & xAP
protocols,
>which aim to provide that glue, but I think even the most enthuisiatic
>proponents of those projects would admit that neither of them could yet
>claim to have produced a "system" that can be
"installed"... - they are
>still mainly in the realms of the technical enthuisiast, and require
quite
>a bit of technical knowledge and effort to implement today. I believe
(and
>I hope), that both of these (and any other projects with similar goals)
>will mature into a product proposition that you can buy off the shelf,
pay
>someone to install, and then leave you with a working system in much
the
>same way as the CEDIA market operates, (albeit hopefully at a much
lower
>cost!).
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>There appears to be a vast yawning gap between these two extremes with
>nothing (that I'm aware of) filling that middle ground.... Although I
think
>there are a *very* few systems/suppliers who are now just about
starting to
>gingerly take a few steps into this area, but to my knowledge there
still
>isn't someone I can go to and get them to supply, install, and
commision a
>fully-integrated HA system encompassing HVAC/lighting/Media/cabling and
>control strategies and all for somewhere around the £5000 (ish) mark...
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>If there were, I suspect I would be knocking on their door pretty
>sharpish... ;-)
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>Regards.
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>Paul Gordon.
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