RE: [ukha_d] AD10 - clunks but doesn't always turn on the light ?

[Marcus Warrington <marcusw@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Tim,

Thanks for the compliment.. a bit of praise makes all the pain of the
journey worth while :)

Yes , you are correct the ceiling IS a permanent structure. The house
itself suffered some sever "settlement" at some point and the
back
right-hand corner of the house must have dropped by a good 4-5 inches or
so. The previous owner levelled the floors (badly - they squeaked and
creaked like geriatric mouse, see the rear bedroom pictures) by packing
out the joists but the ceilings still sloped badly. This was the major
reason for HAVING to build some form levelled ceiling structure.

The structure was built by building a stud frame around the perimeter ,
so that we had a level ceiling with a large hole in the middle. Batons
where then screwed along the old ceiling into the joists above, and
wooden struts where hung down from these, levelled off and a frame then
built onto them, which was then plaster boarded and skimmed,.

Have a look at the  picture of the consumer unit and you can make out
one of the supporting batons and see some of the wooden suspension
struts hanging from it.
http://www.marcusw.dsl.pipex.com/webalbum/Dining%20Room/slides/CIMG0672.
<http://www.marcusw.dsl.pipex.com/webalbum/Dining%20Room/slides/CIMG0672
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Originally I was going to install 3 banks of 4 recessed spots in the
suspended ceiling slab, but having primed the walls white and installed
the strip lights there is actually adequate ambient lighting so I'm now
rethinking what to do, since 12 down lighters of 35watt each would mean
another 420 watts taking it to around 800-900watts of lighting in a
single room .. YIKES!.  I'm currently leaning towards installing 3 low
hung pendant lights in the centre over where the dining table will be,
maybe even rise and fall types so they can be moved out of the way for
parties etc. Kevin's request for information on  flush fitting LED
lights is certainly of interest :)

Regards

Marcus


-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tim Hawes
Sent: 05 July 2006 21:23
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] AD10 - clunks but doesn't always turn on
the light ?



Looks really good Marcus :-)

I can't help with your X10 question, but I was wondering how you
constructed and finished the drop part of the ceiling.

From the pics, and some of your text, you appear to have
constructed
the drop ceiling as permanently attached to the original ceiling
- is
that right? or can you take the middle bit down ?

What are you using for the surface of the drop ceiling,
plasterboard?
and is it skimmed (as appears to be the case in one photo), or
just
taped & filled?

Cheers,

Tim

On 7/5/06, Marcus Warrington <marcusw@xxxxxxx
<mailto:marcusw%40mis-es.com> >
wrote:
>
> I've just finished rewiring the the hallways and dining room
for X10
> control, but have a small problem that I hope someone can
solve for me.
> The dining room has a dropped central ceiling that has strip
lights
> around the perimeter that act as concealed wall wash lighting.
>
> The central cieling is approx 3m x 4m and has one flourescent
tube at
> each 3m end and 2 tubes along each 4m side, giving a total of
6 tubes
> (around 350-400watt). These are chain wired one to the next
and are
> (now) fed from an AD10 mounted in a consumer unit hidden on
top of the
> dropped ceiling. The wall switch has been replaced with a
momentary
> switch to toggle the AD10. I've also had to put a plugin
filter in-line
> between the AD10 and the strip lights otherwise they become
"invisible"
> to X10 commands when turned on.
>
> If this doesn't make a lot of sense I've uploaded some
pictures that may
> make it clearer..
>
>
http://www.marcusw.dsl.pipex.com/webalbum/Dining%20Room/slides/CIMG0674.
<http://www.marcusw.dsl.pipex.com/webalbum/Dining%20Room/slides/CIMG0674
.>
> html
>
>
http://www.marcusw.dsl.pipex.com/webalbum/Dining%20Room/slides/CIMG0672.
<http://www.marcusw.dsl.pipex.com/webalbum/Dining%20Room/slides/CIMG0672
.>
> html
>
> You can also see some pictures of the touch screen monitor
I've sunk
> into the wall (although I need to sink it a bit more to get
the
> stainless steel bezel installed flush) , this is connected to
an old
> PIII 500mhz machine that runs XLOBBY for MP3
selection/playback in the
> kitchen and dining room. The soundcard is feed into a Sonic
Impact T-AMP
> and feed to speakers above the wall cabinets in the kitchen
and to some
> speakers (tempory fix) in the dining room.
>
> Now this all works but occasionally (maybe one time in ten)
the AD10
> will "Clunk!" but the lights don't come on. If I press the
switch again,
> then there is no clunk and nothing happends, press again
(third time)
> and there is a Clunk and the lights come on. Usually this only
happens
> when the lights have been off for a few hours (overnight). My
best guess
> is that the relay is firing but not latching i.e. going back
to its off
> state even though the AD10 firmware "thinks" its on...
Question is why
> and how do I "fix" it ? Is it to do with the strip lights or
does it
> sound like a faulty AD10 ?
>
> Marcus
>
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