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Re: dimmable CFL
- Subject: Re: dimmable CFL
- From: "wywywywywywywywywywy" <wywywywy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:56:42 -0000
Hi,
Yes, same manufacturer, and... ummm.... you are making me very
worried! I have about 4 or 5 of them, but all mine are wall or micro
modules, not plugin modules.
Have you tried emailing Kevin Lo directly?
Thanks,
Wayne
--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Mark Hindess <ukha@...> wrote:
>
>
> On 4 October 2007 at 7:50, "wywywywywywywywywywy"
<wywywywy@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Kevin Lo's 3-wire modules don't have a minimum load :D
> > Unfortunately I use his 2-wire modules... which has a 40w min
load,
> > but still not too bad I think.
>
> I might be wrong, but I think the modules you mention may be from the
> same manufacturer as the one in my pictures below:
>
> http://www.propercustard.co.uk/fault/
>
> I purchased 10 of them from a UK-based third party who told me in May
> that they asked the manufacturer for comment on the above... and I've
> heard nothing in nearly five months.
>
> Had they responded with an explanation (or indeed any response at all)
> then I might have purchased from them again but I certainly not going
to
> do so now. I'm not really inclined to use the third party again
either.
>
> Regards,
> Mark.
>
> > On the other hand, Osram have recently introduced a series of
halogen
> > energy saving lamps offering up to 33% extra brightness.
Basically
> > they just filled the bulbs with xenon gas (yes, the same
technique
> > used on car bulbs for years... don't know why they didn't do it
> > sooner) so this new 40w halogen GU10 bulb is going to be as
bright as
> > a normal 50w one, as far as I understand. Obviously being halogen
it
> > is not going to be too expensive either.
> >
> >
http://www.osram.com/osram_com/Consumer/Home_Lighting/Halogen_lamps/Product=
> >
_overview/Plug-in_bases/ENERGY_SAVER_/HALOPAR_16_ENERGY_SAVER/index.html
> >
> > If the Varilight stuff turns out to be no good, I will probably
go the
> > Osram route - saving just a little bit of energy is better than
not
> > saving any at all.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wayne
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Mark Hindess <ukha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >=20
> > > On 2 October 2007 at 15:49, "wywywywywywywywywywy"
> > > <wywywywy@> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >=20
> > > > I have also been waiting for these since about 6 months
ago. And
> > > > since last week they are finally available :D
> > > >
> > > > But do they REALLY work with a normal dimmer switch
(and hence HA
> > > > systems) though?
> > >=20
> > > Well, I think most people are going to have the same issue
as me. I
> > > have lots of lighting on LD11s. These can be used with
bulbs of
60W or
> > > more. Most of the circuits I have have only a single
60W/100W
bulb. If
> > > I replace these with a Varilight Dimmable bulb which is only
20W
then
> > > it isn't going to work. So unless you have circuits with 3+
bulbs then
> > > these aren't going to work for you.
> > >=20
> > > I have no idea what the solution is to this problem but I'm
sure
clever
> > > people that recommended our country phase out normal bulbs
will
provide
> > > us with a solution, wont they?
> > >=20
> > > > Because the Megaman one claims that it does, but in
reality
you have
> > > > to flick it off and on, which isn't very good on a HA
system.
So I am
> > > > hoping the Varilight one is not like the Megaman one.
> > >=20
> > > The Varilight Switch Dimmable ones, which have been
available
for ages,
> > > are like the Megaman one you describe. The Varilight
Dimmable
ones are
> > > suppose to just work ... but of course they wont because
you'll just
> > > damage your dimmer module.
> > >=20
> > > Regards,
> > > Mark.
> > >
> >
> >
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> > <p>Hi,<br>
> > <br>
> > Kevin Lo's 3-wire modules don't have a minimum load :D<br>
> > Unfortunately I use his 2-wire modules... which has a 40w min
load,<br>
> > but still not too bad I think.<br>
> > <br>
> > On the other hand, Osram have recently introduced a series of
halogen<br>
> > energy saving lamps offering up to 33% extra brightness.
Basically<br>
> > they just filled the bulbs with xenon gas (yes, the same
technique<br>
> > used on car bulbs for years... don't know why they didn't do
it<br>
> > sooner) so this new 40w halogen GU10 bulb is going to be as
bright
as<br>
> > a normal 50w one, as far as I understand. Obviously being halogen
it<br>
> > is not going to be too expensive either.<br>
> > <br>
> > <a
href="http://www.osram.com/osram_com/Consumer/Home_Lighting/Halogen_lamps/
> >
Product_overview/Plug-in_bases/ENERGY_SAVER_/HALOPAR_16_ENERGY_SAVER/index.ht
> >
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> >
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> > <br>
> > If the Varilight stuff turns out to be no good, I will probably
go
the<br>
> > Osram route - saving just a little bit of energy is better than
not<br>
> > saving any at all.<br>
> > <br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Wayne<br>
> > <br>
> > --- In <a
href="mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com";>ukha_d@yahoogroups.<wbr>com<
> > /a>, Mark Hindess ukha@ wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <br>
> > > On 2 October 2007 at 15:49,
"wywywywywywywywywy<wbr>wy"<br>
> > > wywywywy@<wbr>.> wrote:<br>
> > > > Hi,<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > I have also been waiting for these since about
6 months
ago. And<b
> > r>
> > > > since last week they are finally available
:D<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > But do they REALLY work with a normal dimmer
switch (and
hence HA<b
> > r>
> > > > systems) though?<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Well, I think most people are going to have the same
issue as
me. I<br>
> > > have lots of lighting on LD11s. These can be used with
bulbs
of 60W or<
> > br>
> > > more. Most of the circuits I have have only a single
60W/100W bulb. If
> > <br>
> > > I replace these with a Varilight Dimmable bulb which is
only
20W then<br
> > >
> > > it isn't going to work. So unless you have circuits
with 3+
bulbs then<
> > br>
> > > these aren't going to work for you.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > I have no idea what the solution is to this problem but
I'm
sure clever<
> > br>
> > > people that recommended our country phase out normal
bulbs
will provide<
> > br>
> > > us with a solution, wont they?<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > Because the Megaman one claims that it does,
but in
reality you hav
> > e<br>
> > > > to flick it off and on, which isn't very good
on a HA
system. So I
> > am<br>
> > > > hoping the Varilight one is not like the
Megaman one.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > The Varilight Switch Dimmable ones, which have been
available
for ages,<
> > br>
> > > are like the Megaman one you describe. The Varilight
Dimmable ones are<
> > br>
> > > suppose to just work ... but of course they wont because
you'll just<br>
> > > damage your dimmer module.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Regards,<br>
> > > Mark.<br>
> > ><br>
> > <br>
> > </p>
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