RE: Re: Hometronic Question

["Paul Gale" <groups2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, it's the HX10 that I have :)

>From the manual (not very good!), it appears it'll take a 12V input,
open collector, a switch or a data connection from an alarm system
(Lynxr?). I think this data connection is derived from the X10 interface.
For the switch input an additional 12V supply is also necessary. It has 5
inputs, each of which can trigger a separate lifestyle.

Paul.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Ben McCormack
> Sent: 14 April 2008 10:05
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Hometronic Question
>
> Paul - Have you looked at the HX10? It looks like it will take the
> input from a relay or X10.
>
> Ben
>
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Paul Gale" <groups2@...>
wrote:
> >
> > You can get wireless input and output modules for Hometronic -
I'm
> going to simply
> have Comfort (or maybe HomeVision) set an output when the alarm state
> changes (away or
> night to start with). Hometronic then sets a 'lifestyle' to knock back
> temperatures etc.
> >
> > A lifestyle is a set of override temperatures for any number of
> zones. These remain in
> effect until the lifestyle is cancelled (remotely via the input
module)
> or for a certain time
> period (if set from the Hometronic manager).
> >
> > I may have to use HV for this as I'd want the heating to still
come
> on at the right temp in
> the morning though after a night mode, so a timed output off would be
> needed. For night
> mode, it's only really the time of going to bed that needs to change
> and at that time I want
> the heating to fall back to night temps (rather than having the
heating
> drop back later at
> night if still up and watching a film etc if it's on a simple time
> schedule).
> >
> > Apparently the web interfaces (with RS232 OR xml control with the
> newer interface)
> allow much more sophisticated control and reporting - i.e. you can get
> temperature
> reporting and with the latest interface you can also change the
> schedules. Changing the
> schedules would be quite good as potentially HV could do this I think.
> >
> > Anyway - these are my thoughts so far as I've not connected up
the
> input module yet -
> will happen in a few weeks possibly when the new Node0 is fully up and
> running.
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > > Of Ben McCormack
> > > Sent: 13 April 2008 23:24
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > I am currently trying to plan a whole house renovation and
was
> looking
> > > at the following
> > >
> > > Lighting : CBUS
> > > Heating : Hometronic
> > > Alarm : Comfort
> > >
> > > Now I know that Comfort and CBUS will talk to each other
quite
> happily.
> > >
> > > So how are you intending to get Hometronic to speak to
Comfort?
> > >
> > > In an ideal world I would be able to tell Comfort I am going
on
> > > Holiday and then Comfort tells CBUS and turns lights on and
off so
> we
> > > appear to be at home and then also tells Hometronic that
then
> switches
> > > onto a Holiday program.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry for all of the questions but I am trying to find out
the best
> > > way of interfacing 3 systems. So far I have discounted the
> following
> > >
> > > Heatmiser : Cheap but does not speak to anything else
> > > CM Zone : Cheap and speaks to Comfort BUT does not allow the
room
> by
> > > room control I am looking for.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > On 13 Apr 2008, at 23:13, Paul Gale wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes I am happy with it - no interfacing yet although I
have a
> module
> > > > waiting to be connected to Comfort for basic control
(away mode
> > > > lifestyle, night mode lifestyle etc). There are now two
web
> server
> > > > interface modules that Sensible Heat do - but due to
the kit
> > > > involved, they're not cheap :( So it's going to be very
difficult
> to
> > > > justify although it would give me ultimate control
provided I can
> > > > get it talking OK with HomeVision/Comfort/xAP etc
etc...
> > > >
> > > > Paul.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> > > >> Behalf
> > > >> Of Ben McCormack
> > > >> Sent: 13 April 2008 22:15
> > > >> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> > > >>
> > > >> Paul
> > > >>
> > > >> I guess the big question is are you happy with the
system? I
> know it
> > > >> is not cheap.
> > > >> Another question. Do you interface it with anything
else? and
> are
> > > you
> > > >> using any of the remote control features?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >> Ben
> > > >>
> > > >> On 13 Apr 2008, at 21:59, Paul Gale wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> They seem OK - well enough separated from the
hot rad I guess -
> or
> > > >>> compensating being next to it. What I've not
tried is testing
> the
> > > >>> temp of the room via a thermometer etc to see
how it matches -
> will
> > > >>> try that later.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It has taken a while to get used to the system
purely as you
> can
> > > set
> > > >>> as many set points as you want for each zone -
the house has
> been
> > > >>> fairly warm and over time we've tuned it to
suit.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Paul.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
> On
> > > >>>> Behalf
> > > >>>> Of Ben McCormack
> > > >>>> Sent: 13 April 2008 21:57
> > > >>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hometronic Question
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Paul
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This may be me being stupid but how well do
the thermostats
> work
> > > >> when
> > > >>>> they are connected to a heat source?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Ben
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 13 Apr 2008, at 21:46, Paul Gale wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Simple answer - yes.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Each radiator controller reports the
temp back to the
> hometronic
> > > >>>>> manager although you can also have
separate thermostats if
> > > needed.
> > > >>>>> Several radiators can be in a single
zone too.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I now have all the rads in the house
connected in this way
> and a
> > > 3
> > > >>>>> zone UFH system and an interface to an
aircon unit.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Paul.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
> On
> > > >>>>>> Behalf
> > > >>>>>> Of Ben McCormack
> > > >>>>>> Sent: 13 April 2008 20:49
> > > >>>>>> To: UKHA Mailinglist
> > > >>>>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Hometronic
Question
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> All
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I am looking into an automated
heating system that gives
> zoned
> > > >>>>>> control
> > > >>>>>> to 16 Raidiators and 10 rooms.
Honeywell Hometronic seems to
> > > give
> > > >>>>>> me
> > > >>>>>> this.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I have a simple question. Where are
the room thermostats? Is
> > > this
> > > >>>>>> provided by the HR80UK on each
radiator?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Regards
> > > >>>>>> Ben
> > > >>>>>>
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