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RE: Re: Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?



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Ah OK - will take a look...

Paul.

From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 23 April 2015 20:58
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave
connectiv=
ity?



Have a look at the Qubino modules as well. Very similar to Fibaro but
appar=
antly the dimming circuit is better, particulary with LEDs and low level.
On 23/04/2015 13:09, Steve Jones email@xxxxxxx<mailto:email@stevejon=
es.org> [ukha_d] wrote:
Noel,

Here is a link to some Z-Wave switches listed on Vesternet.

http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave/lighting-sockets

I believe most of these type of switches can have direct association with
a=
nother Z-Wave device. Like a dimmer module, that way the light will still
s=
witch on, however you will not have any logic, i.e. between the hours
of...=
Do this action.....  That is why I prefer a hardware controller that will=
be on 24/7 to act as the workhorse/brain..  It doesn't have to an expensiv=
e controller. You can pick them up for less than =A3100.

With regards to your comment 'the ideal is to not use hard wired switches'
=
I'm not sure I agree. I prefer hardware switches because you don't have
the=
issue of maintaining batteries, standard switches are cheaper and often lo=
ok nicer.  Z-Wave micro modules can be installed behind a switch
(providing=
the back box is deep enough), also in or behind the light fitting its self=
in some cases.


Good luck with it

Steve

From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha_d@=
yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 23 April 2015 12:42
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?



Perfect thanks both, I think the way i'll handle this is by setting a
brief=
on command at say 0600 at full brightness so that after that point if anyo=
ne uses the light switch they'll get full brightness.

Guess the ideal is to not use hard wired switches i.e. that someone
presses=
the switch, command goes to Indigo, it decides what action to take based o=
n time of day etc and then instructs the light accordingly. Downside of
tha=
t obviously is that the lightswitch doesn't work if Indigo or the mac
isn't=
working for any reason. Not good for WAF!

Do such switches exist for zwave? Guess i'm thinking along the lines of
the=
X10 stick a switch that I still use today for a few things and it works gr=
eat!

Cheers both, i'm placing my order on Vesternet today for my first wave
good=
ies! List is the usb interface, a 4 in 1 motion sensor and 2 of the dimmer
=
units. Now to find a 2 gang light switch with 1 momentary and one toggle
sw=
itch in for me to get going with my bathroom lights!

Cheers

Noel





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OK &#8=
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<span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:windowtext"> ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@yah=
oogroups.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2015 20:58<br>
<b>To:</b> ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] Re: Best wire free alarm system
with Z Wave co=
nnectivity?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<br>
Have a look at the Qubino modules as well. Very similar to Fibaro but
appar=
antly the dimming circuit is better, particulary with LEDs and low level.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 23/04/2015 13:09, Steve Jones
<a href=3D"mailto:e=
mail@xxxxxxx">
email@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Here is a link to
some Z-Wave=
switches listed on Vesternet.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave/lighting-=
sockets"><span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareas=
t-language:EN-US">http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave/lighting-sockets</span></=
a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I believe most of
these type =
of switches can have direct association with another Z-Wave device. Like a
=
dimmer module, that way the light will still switch
on, however you will not have any logic, i.e. between the hours
of&#8230;&=
nbsp; Do this action&#8230;..&nbsp; That is why I prefer a hardware
control=
ler that will be on 24/7 to act as the workhorse/brain..&nbsp; It
doesn&#82=
17;t have to an expensive controller. You can pick them up for less
than =A3100. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">With regards to your
comment =
&#8216;</span>the ideal is to not use hard wired
switches&#8217;
<span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-f=
areast-language:EN-US">
I&#8217;m not sure I agree. I prefer hardware switches because you
don&#821=
7;t have the issue of maintaining batteries, standard switches are cheaper
=
and often look nicer.&nbsp; Z-Wave micro modules can be installed
behind a =
switch (providing the back box is deep enough), also
in or behind the light fitting its self in some
cases.</span><o:p></o:p></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1F497D">Good luck with
it</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
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US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2015 12:42<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ukha_d] Re: Best wire free alarm system with Z
Wave connec=
tivity?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Perfect thanks both, I think the way i&#8217;ll handle this is
by settin=
g a brief on command at say 0600 at full brightness so that after that
poin=
t if anyone uses the light switch they&#8217;ll get full
brightness.<br>
<br>
Guess the ideal is to not use hard wired switches i.e. that someone
presses=
the switch, command goes to Indigo, it decides what action to take based o=
n time of day etc and then instructs the light accordingly. Downside of
tha=
t obviously is that the lightswitch
doesn&#8217;t work if Indigo or the mac isn&#8217;t working for any
reason=
. Not good for WAF!<br>
<br>
Do such switches exist for zwave? Guess i&#8217;m thinking along the
lines =
of the X10 stick a switch that I still use today for a few things and it
wo=
rks great!<br>
<br>
Cheers both, i&#8217;m placing my order on Vesternet today for my first
wav=
e goodies! List is the usb interface, a 4 in 1 motion sensor and 2 of the
d=
immer units. Now to find a 2 gang light switch with 1 momentary and one
tog=
gle switch in for me to get going with
my bathroom lights!<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Noel<o:p></o:p></p>
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