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Hi All,
Following the recent AH video on Siri integration (did anyone notice the
DV=
D of an open fire?? :) ) and SWMBO actually showing an interest in these
Ph=
ilips lights, I have a quick question. If these are replacements for
existi=
ng bulbs, do they work like a standard bulb if you use the light switch to
=
turn them on?
I realise that you would normally use an app to operate, but if they were
t=
o be plugged in to a normal light socket and someone turned it off at the
w=
all so to speak, if it was next turned back on at the wall switch, do they
=
default to 'bright white on=92 - ie go to =91normal light bulb=92 mode?
Als=
o would this the case for all the the Hue range or just the =91bulb=92
vers=
ions? (looking at the LED strip lights also)
Hope that makes sense!
Cheers
Wayne.
> On 30 Dec 2015, at 11:58, 'Phil Harris' phil@xxxxxxx [ukha_d]
<ukha_d=
@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>=20
> At the moment I have the "3 white bulb and Hue Bridge"
starter set, the "=
3
> Hue and White bulb and Hue Bridge" starter set, the Bloom and the
"Hue Wh=
ite
> and Wireless dimmer" set ... So, 1 x Bloom, 2 x Hue Bridges, 3 x
Hue and
> Colour bulbs and 4 x Hue White bulbs. :-)
>=20
> I keep looking at the SmartThings hub - mainly because the Hue Bridge
see=
ms
> to have no possible support for anything other than lights (so no plug
in
> switches, power monitoring, logic, wired wall switches etc.) whereas
in
> theory the Hue bulbs can be used with the SmartThings Hub directly
*OR* v=
ia
> the Hue Bridge but what concerns me about the SmartThings is that it
appe=
ars
> to *NEED* the backend SmartThings server to perform its smart things
(I
> don't like the idea of tying my home to Samsungs continued goodwill at
> keeping the service going) and I don't want to end up swapping out one
> smartphone / tablet based control for another smartphone/tablet based
> control ... I want to get to a position where the tablet is only
needed f=
or
> occasional tweaking rather than actual day-to-day control.
>=20
> Of course the other consideration has to be that I've already thrown
=A33=
00 at
> Hue in the last two weeks so another =A3200 on SmartThings (when I
need t=
o now
> also buy another 6Tb WD Red drive as one of the remaining 2Tb drives
in m=
y 8
> bay Synology NAS has just failed) is getting expensive. :-D
>=20
> At the moment I have the Official Phlips Hue app, "Hue
Mate", "Huemote",
> "OnSwitch", "MagicHue" and "IF"
installed ... haven't had much of a play
> with Siri control yet...
>=20
> Phil
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha=
_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>]=20
> Sent: 30 December 2015 11:22
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
>=20
> Oh no! A big Faraday cage!
>=20
> Have you looksed at any of the other alternative to the Hue app?
>=20
> TBH, I use the SmartThings app to control the Hue lights now - and the
> smarttiles webpage smartapp which is quite useful for basic control.
Did =
you
> say you have that or just the Hue 'starter kit'? Can't remember.
Although=
a
> warning that the ST system is fun and shows potential, there are still
a =
few
> issues!
>=20
> Paul.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha=
_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>]=20
> Sent: 30 December 2015 11:08
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
>=20
> I thought the Bloom actually felt very solid when I unboxed it but the
li=
ght
> output is pretty crap ... If you're saying that your Iris do a good
purpl=
e
> (and therefore should do a good blue too) then maybe there's something
wr=
ong
> with this one ... Might see if I can get it replaced?
>=20
> I did try running up my CBus wireless yesterday and although I got
> everything working and paired up on my test wiring harnesses (makes
all t=
he
> pairing of the switches with the wireless gateway much easier) when I
> dropped the switches into the back boxes (the guy that wired this
place
> helpfully used really deep plasterboard boxes) I couldn't get reliable
co=
mms
> and programming ... Turns out the whole place is done even internally
wit=
h
> foil backed insulated board which must be blocking RF back to the
gateway
> ... :-(
>=20
> Looks like the mesh (ZigBee based) networks will work fine here though
so
> I'm back to the Hue stuff for now ... I do like the Geofence function
on =
the
> Hue software but the rest of the Hue app is pretty clunky and rather
> obstructive and difficult to navigate easily. If I'm going to stick
with =
Hue
> then I will need to order up a bunch more wireless remotes and
thinking
> about whether it would be possible to 3D print up some replacement
switch
> cover blanks with receptacles for the wireless dimmer switches in them
to
> make them more useable.
>=20
> One thing I did find which is handy though ... All the light switch
> locations in this place are wired with a neutral so I need to have a
look
> and see if I can find some nice wall ZigBee wall switches. :-)
>=20
> Just need to find a ZigBee capable equivalent of HomeGate (Clipsal
CBus) =
or
> HomeVision ... :-)=20
>=20
> Phil
>=20
> Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
>=20
> > On 30 Dec 2015, at 10:20, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx <mailto:gr=
oups2@xxxxxxx> [ukha_d]
> <ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >=20
> > I don't like the bloom much - too small and under powered. I do
have 9 =
(!)
> of the Iris lamps though and love them. They have cut manufacturing
costs
> significantly over the years and they're now very plasticy - used to
be m=
uch
> more stylish. Still good for colouring a small wall though. Not tested
CR=
I
> etc but they do pretty well on purple which they're mostly used on.
> >=20
> > As for the White and Hue colour bulbs (which they were recently
rebrand=
ed
> to I believe) - with the recent v2 hub and the re-brand, they were
update=
d
> slightly with a higher wattage LED and marginally higher light output.
So
> there are at least two versions out there.
> >=20
> >=20
> > Paul.
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:uk=
ha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>]=20
> > Sent: 28 December 2015 22:47
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Hue musings ...
> >=20
> >=20
> > I was a bad boy in John Lewis today while I was there with a mate
picki=
ng
> up a Sage Oracle (for him, not me) ...
> >=20
> > Anyway, the sales are on so I ended up getting another starter
kit (the
> Hue White and Colour) and a Hue Bloom (which of course aren't in any
sale=
s
> but it makes me feel better) to give them a try ...=20
> >=20
> > Might have been spoiled in the past as I was using some DMX
controlled
> wall washers, floods and spots but they were all pretty old (at least
fou=
r
> years) and so hardly cutting edge. The colour mixing on the White and
Hue
> bulbs and the Bloom in comparison is quite poor in comparison - I'd
> definitely query the '16 million colours' claim, they might have 256
leve=
ls
> for each of RGB but by God they don't reproduce them ...
> >=20
> > The White and Hue bulbs do a really washed out Green and their
Cyan is
> basically a very-slightly-blue-tinged-white.
> >=20
> > The Bloom does a pretty good Green and decent Red but Purple is
basical=
ly
> Light Pink and Blue is really poor too ... I'm actually wondering if
it
> could be faulty given that other reviews on the Bloom have been very
> complimentary about its colour rendition.
> >=20
> > I wonder whether the GU10 White and Hue bulbs are any better
...=20
> >=20
> > Phil
> >=20
> > Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
> >=20
> > ------------------------------------
> > Posted by: Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx <mailto:phil@xxxxxxx>>
> > ------------------------------------
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > ------------------------------------
> >=20
> > Yahoo Groups Links
> >=20
>=20
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: Phil Harris <phil@xxxxxxx <mailto:phil@xxxxxxx>>
> ------------------------------------
>=20
> ------------------------------------
>=20
> Yahoo Groups Links
>=20
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: Paul Gale <paul@xxxxxxx <mailto:paul@xxxxxxx=
>>
> ------------------------------------
>=20
> ------------------------------------
>=20
> Yahoo Groups Links
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>=20
>=20
>=20
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Hi All,<div class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div><div
class=3D"">Following the r=
ecent AH video on Siri integration (did anyone notice the DVD of an open
fi=
re?? :) ) and SWMBO actually showing an interest in these Philips lights,
I=
have a quick question. If these are replacements for existing bulbs, do th=
ey work like a standard bulb if you use the light switch to turn them
on?</=
div><div class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I
realise that you=
would normally use an app to operate, but if they were to be plugged in to=
a normal light socket and someone turned it off at the wall so to speak, i=
f it was next turned back on at the wall switch, do they default to
'bright=
white on=92 - ie go to =91normal light bulb=92 mode? Also would this the c=
ase for all the the Hue range or just the =91bulb=92 versions? (looking at
=
the LED strip lights also)</div><div
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div
c=
lass=3D"">Hope that makes sense!</div><div
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>=
<div class=3D"">Cheers</div><div
class=3D"">Wayne.</div><div
class=3D""><br=
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 30 Dec
2015, at 11:58, 'Phil Harris' <a =
href=3D"mailto:phil@xxxxxxx";
class=3D"">phil@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
class=3D"">ukha_d@yahoogroups.=
com</a>> wrote:</div><br
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=
=3D""><div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg"
style=3D"font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, =
helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
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o; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
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ckground-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); position: relative;"
class=3D""><div id=
=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; z-index:
1;" class=3D""><div id=
=3D"ygrp-text" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family:
Georgia;" class=
=3D""><p style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px
1em;" class=3D"">At =
the moment I have the "3 white bulb and Hue Bridge" starter set,
the "3<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Hue and
White bulb and Hue Bridge=
" starter set, the Bloom and the "Hue White<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em=
;" class=3D"">and Wireless dimmer" set ... So, 1 x
Bloom, 2 x Hue Bridges, =
3 x Hue and<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">Colour bulbs and 4=
x Hue White bulbs. :-)<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br st=
yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">I keep
looking at the SmartThings h=
ub - mainly because the Hue Bridge seems<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" =
class=3D"">to have no possible support for anything other than
lights (so n=
o plug in<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">switches, power moni=
toring, logic, wired wall switches etc.) whereas in<br
style=3D"line-height=
: 1.22em;" class=3D"">theory the Hue bulbs can be used
with the SmartThings=
Hub directly *OR* via<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">the Hue=
Bridge but what concerns me about the SmartThings is that it appears<br
st=
yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">to *NEED*
the backend SmartThings s=
erver to perform its smart things (I<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" clas=
s=3D"">don't like the idea of tying my home to Samsungs
continued goodwill =
at<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">keeping the service going) =
and I don't want to end up swapping out one<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em=
;" class=3D"">smartphone / tablet based control for
another smartphone/tabl=
et based<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">control ... I want to=
get to a position where the tablet is only needed for<br
style=3D"line-hei=
ght: 1.22em;" class=3D"">occasional tweaking rather than
actual day-to-day =
control.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=3D"line-hei=
ght: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Of course the other
consideration has to be that I=
've already thrown =A3300 at<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">H=
ue in the last two weeks so another =A3200 on SmartThings (when I need to
n=
ow<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">also buy another 6Tb WD Red=
drive as one of the remaining 2Tb drives in my 8<br
style=3D"line-height: =
1.22em;" class=3D"">bay Synology NAS has just failed) is
getting expensive.=
:-D<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height:=
1.22em;" class=3D"">At the moment I have the Official
Phlips Hue app, "Hue=
Mate", "Huemote",<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">"OnSwitch",=
"MagicHue" and "IF" installed ... haven't had much of a
play<br style=3D"l=
ine-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">with Siri control
yet...<br style=3D"line-h=
eight: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Ph=
il<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1=
.22em;" class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22=
em;" class=3D"">From:<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-f=
amily: Verdana;"
class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><span
class=3D"Apple-=
converted-space"> </span>[<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx"; st=
yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">mailto:ukha_d=
@yahoogroups.com</a>]<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Sent: 30
December 2015 11:22<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted=
-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"lin=
e-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx<=
/a><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hue =
musings ...<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=3D"line-=
height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Oh no! A big Faraday
cage!<br style=3D"line-hei=
ght: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Have=
you looksed at any of the other alternative to the Hue app?<br
style=3D"li=
ne-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"=
">TBH, I use the SmartThings app to control the Hue lights now -
and the<br=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">smarttiles
webpage smartapp whic=
h is quite useful for basic control. Did you<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22e=
m;" class=3D"">say you have that or just the Hue 'starter
kit'? Can't remem=
ber. Although a<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">warning that t=
he ST system is fun and shows potential, there are still a few<br
style=3D"=
line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">issues!<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">Paul.<br style=3D"=
line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=
=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D=
"">From:<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href=3D"mailt=
o:ukha_d@xxxxxxx" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family:
Verdan=
a;" class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce"> </span>[<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-h=
eight: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;" class=3D"">mailto:ukha_d@yahoogroups.=
com</a>]<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"lin=
e-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Sent: 30 December 2015
11:08<br style=3D"line=
-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">To:<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> =
;</span><a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-height: 1.2=
2em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Subject: Re:
[ukha_d] Hue musings ...<=
br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22=
em;" class=3D"">I thought the Bloom actually felt very
solid when I unboxed=
it but the light<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">output is pr=
etty crap ... If you're saying that your Iris do a good purple<br
style=3D"=
line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">(and therefore should do
a good blue too) =
then maybe there's something wrong<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=
=3D"">with this one ... Might see if I can get it
replaced?<br style=3D"lin=
e-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""=
>I did try running up my CBus wireless yesterday and although I
got<br styl=
e=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">everything
working and paired up on m=
y test wiring harnesses (makes all the<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" cl=
ass=3D"">pairing of the switches with the wireless gateway
much easier) whe=
n I<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">dropped the switches into =
the back boxes (the guy that wired this place<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22=
em;" class=3D"">helpfully used really deep plasterboard
boxes) I couldn't g=
et reliable comms<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">and programm=
ing ... Turns out the whole place is done even internally with<br
style=3D"=
line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">foil backed insulated
board which must be =
blocking RF back to the gateway<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"=
">... :-(<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><br style=3D"line-he=
ight: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Looks like the mesh (ZigBee
based) networks will =
work fine here though so<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">I'm b=
ack to the Hue stuff for now ... I do like the Geofence function on
the<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Hue
software but the rest of the =
Hue app is pretty clunky and rather<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=
=3D"">obstructive and difficult to navigate easily. If I'm
going to stick w=
ith Hue<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">then I will need to or=
der up a bunch more wireless remotes and thinking<br
style=3D"line-height: =
1.22em;" class=3D"">about whether it would be possible to
3D print up some =
replacement switch<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">cover blank=
s with receptacles for the wireless dimmer switches in them to<br
style=3D"=
line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">make them more
useable.<br style=3D"line-h=
eight: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">On=
e thing I did find which is handy though ... All the light switch<br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">locations in
this place are wired with=
a neutral so I need to have a look<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=
=3D"">and see if I can find some nice wall ZigBee wall
switches. :-)<br sty=
le=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" c=
lass=3D"">Just need to find a ZigBee capable equivalent of
HomeGate (Clipsa=
l CBus) or<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">HomeVision ... :-)<=
span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height:=
1.22em;" class=3D""><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">Phil<br =
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;=
" class=3D"">Sent from another bloody fruit-based
portable device...<br sty=
le=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" c=
lass=3D"">> On 30 Dec 2015, at 10:20, Paul Gale<span
class=3D"Apple-conv=
erted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:groups2@xxxxxxx"; style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">groups2@siliconp=
ixel.com</a><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[ukha_d]<br
=
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yaho=
ogroups.com" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family:
Verdana;" class=3D"=
">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" c=
lass=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">> I
don't like the bloom much - too=
small and under powered. I do have 9 (!)<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;"=
class=3D"">of the Iris lamps though and love them. They have
cut manufactu=
ring costs<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">significantly over =
the years and they're now very plasticy - used to be much<br
style=3D"line-=
height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">more stylish. Still good for
colouring a small =
wall though. Not tested CRI<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">et=
c but they do pretty well on purple which they're mostly used on.<br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce"> </span><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">> As for =
the White and Hue colour bulbs (which they were recently rebranded<br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">to I believe) -
with the recent v2 hub=
and the re-brand, they were updated<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" clas=
s=3D"">slightly with a higher wattage LED and marginally
higher light outpu=
t. So<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">there are at least two v=
ersions out there.<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span c=
lass=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22e=
m;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
s=
tyle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">>
Paul.<br style=3D"line-height=
: 1.22em;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </spa=
n><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> -----Original Message-=
----<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> From:<span class=3D"=
Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
m" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;"
class=3D"">ukha_d@y=
ahoogroups.com</a><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a
hr=
ef=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-fam=
ily: Verdana;" class=3D"">mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]<span
class=3D"=
Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" clas=
s=3D"">> Sent: 28 December 2015 22:47<br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" =
class=3D"">> To:<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
hr=
ef=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-fam=
ily: Verdana;" class=3D"">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br
style=3D"line-heigh=
t: 1.22em;" class=3D"">> Subject: [ukha_d] Hue
musings ...<br style=3D"l=
ine-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&=
nbsp;</span><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=
=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" =
class=3D"">> I was a bad boy in John Lewis today while
I was there with =
a mate picking<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">up a Sage Oracl=
e (for him, not me) ...<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><s=
pan
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: =
1.22em;" class=3D"">> Anyway, the sales are on so
I ended up getting ano=
ther starter kit (the<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">Hue Whit=
e and Colour) and a Hue Bloom (which of course aren't in any sales<br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">but it makes me
feel better) to give t=
hem a try ...<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce"> </span><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">> Might h=
ave been spoiled in the past as I was using some DMX controlled<br
style=3D=
"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">wall washers,
floods and spots but they w=
ere all pretty old (at least four<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=
=3D"">years) and so hardly cutting edge. The colour mixing on
the White and=
Hue<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">bulbs and the Bloom in co=
mparison is quite poor in comparison - I'd<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;=
" class=3D"">definitely query the '16 million colours'
claim, they might ha=
ve 256 levels<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">for each of RGB =
but by God they don't reproduce them ...<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" =
class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=
=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">> The
White and Hue bulbs do a real=
ly washed out Green and their Cyan is<br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" cla=
ss=3D"">basically a very-slightly-blue-tinged-white.<br
style=3D"line-heigh=
t: 1.22em;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </sp=
an><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">> The Bloom does a pret=
ty good Green and decent Red but Purple is basically<br
style=3D"line-heigh=
t: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Light Pink and Blue is really poor
too ... I'm actua=
lly wondering if it<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">could be f=
aulty given that other reviews on the Bloom have been very<br
style=3D"line=
-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">complimentary about its
colour rendition.<br s=
tyle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">><span class=3D"Apple-converted=
-space"> </span><br style=3D"line-height:
1.22em;" class=3D"">> I w=
onder whether the GU10 White and Hue bulbs are any better ...<span
class=3D=
"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" cla=
ss=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D=
"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">>
Phil<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em=
;" class=3D"">><span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
st=
yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">>
Sent from another bloody fruit=
-based portable device...<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;"
class=3D"">>=
<span
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
style=3D"line-height=
: 1.22em;" class=3D"">>
------------------------------------<br style=3D=
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dana;" class=3D"">phil@xxxxxxx</a>><br
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class=3D"">Posted by: =
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style=3D"line-height: 1=
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