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- Subject: RE: receiving serial data/email alerts?
- From: "Paul Gale" <groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:20:14 +0100
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Thanks Mark,
xAPHomeVision sounds good :)
I've got several devices that either report status or are controllable via
=
RS232. My current (remembered) list includes:
* Extron MAV128 video matrix switcher - at the heart of my AV switching
sys=
tem
* Panasonic plasma TV
* Onkyo Amp
* Onkyo DVD player
* Aquarium computer
All of these devices have been 'on my list' to integrate with my HA system
=
but I've never got around to doing yet!
If there was some kind of xAP application, using a PC's standard serial
por=
ts, USB to serial or serial add-in card, that could communicate with a
seri=
al device and have a set of logic to do something with that data, that
woul=
d be great. I'm thinking of the kind of logic that HV allows and the
result=
ant actions would be xAP messages. Does that make sense?
I wonder whether broadcasting the serial data via xAP would also be
desirab=
le? - would I really want to do this I wonder?
I guess an easier(?) xAP approach to dealing with serial data is to pass
it=
all into HV and let HV's logic deal with it. I'm thinking of a direct xAP =
replacement for ACE's serial handling capability (mapping and passing
throu=
gh to HV). In this case, it would be great if the xAP application could
com=
bine several serial sources and pass them on to HV. Maybe also with some
ki=
nd of identifier as to which serial source the data has come from
(although=
most of my kit has unique protocols) i.e. appending a couple of characters=
to the beginning of the message and a termination character at the end? Th=
is approach would be fantastic as it would allow easy addition of multiple
=
serial ports to HV.
The reverse flow of data from HV out to the serial ports may also have a
co=
uple of designator characters as well, which the xAP application would
stri=
p off before sending the data to the relevant port.
Does that all sound feasible?
It's one of the next biggest hurdles for me to integrate xAP even further
i=
nto my HA system.
Oh, and is there a xAP scheduler available yet - something that can rival
t=
he power of the HV scheduler?
Cheers,
Paul.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Harrison
> (Groups)
> Sent: 14 July 2005 21:08
> To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [xap_automation] receiving serial data/email alerts?
>=20
> On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 15:50 +0100, Paul Gale wrote:
> > Thanks Kevin,
> >
> > I know I can do this with HV but wanted to try it the xAP route
if
> possible. Looks like there just isn't the functionality of HV serial
> handling yet in a xAP application?
> >
> > I have an HV pro and all the ports are used - don't really want
to spen=
d
> anything on an additional serial port unless there's some kind of
device
> that allows multiple additional serial ports?
> >
> > I guess ACE is the way forward then - unfortunately my ACE
install
> stopped working for some reason - won't even load :(
> >
> > Just thinking - instead of the physical splitting of the RS232
lines
> into two - is there some kind of serial mapping software that will
forwar=
d
> on received data and appear to other applications like a serial port
> itself? I have 10 serial ports on the server and they're all in use!!!
> >
> > Does the netiom have all the logic necessary to deal with custom
serial
> data? I don't know much about them.
> >
> > Paul.
>=20
> xAPHomeVision is about to be relaunched. Major upgrading, ahem,
> supporting BSC 1.3.
>=20
> It seems to be working here OK, so will be uploaded to my website over
> the weekend.
>=20
> Likewise, BSCMapper is working fine and about to be uploaded. The
extra
> functionality is a Load/Save configuration, plus a lot of work under
the
> hood by Mary and Kevin, to allow an "inverted map" between
BSC
> endpoints.
>=20
> On the HV stuff, can you give me a bit more detail on what
functionality
> you'd like added, and we can add to the worklist? Mary's diary is a
lot
> more free as of Monday next week.
>=20
> Mark
>=20
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">Thanks
Mark,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">xAPHomeVision sounds good
:)</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">I've got several devices
that</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT
SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">either report status or are
controllable via RS232. My current (remembered) list
includes:</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">·<FONT FACE="Courier
New"> </FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Extron MAV128 video matrix
switcher - at the heart of my AV switching
system</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">·<FONT FACE="Courier
New"> </FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">Panasonic plasma TV</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">·<FONT FACE="Courier
New"> </FONT></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Onkyo
Amp</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">·<FONT FACE="Courier
New"> </FONT></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Onkyo DVD
player</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">·<FONT FACE="Courier
New"> </FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">Aquarium computer</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN>
</P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">All of these devices have been 'on my list'
to integrate with my HA system but I've never got around to doing
yet!</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">If there was some kind of xAP application,
using a PC's standard serial ports, USB to serial or serial add-in card,
that could communicate with a serial device and have a set of logic to do
something with that data,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">that would be great.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">
I'm thinking of the kind of logic that HV allows and the resultant actions
would be xAP messages. Does that make
sense?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">I wonder whether broadcasting the serial
data via</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">xAP</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">would also be desirable?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">- would I really want to do this I
wonder?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">I guess an easier(?) xAP approach to
dealing with serial data is to pass it all into HV and let HV's logic deal
with it. I'm thinking of a direct xAP replacement for ACE's serial handling
capability (mapping and passing through to HV). In
th</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT
SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">is case, it would be great if the
xAP application could</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">combine several serial sources and pass them on to HV. Maybe
also with some kind of identifier as to which serial source the data has
come from (although most of my kit has unique protocols) i.e. appending a
couple of characters to the beginning of the message and a termination
character at the end? This approach would be fantastic as it would allow
easy addition of multiple serial ports to HV.</FON
T></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">The reverse flow of data from HV out to the
serial ports may also have a couple of designator characters as well, which
the xAP application would strip off before sending the data to the relevant
port.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">Does that all
sound</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT
SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">feasible</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">It's one of
the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT
SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">next</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">biggest hurdles</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">for me to integrate xAP even further into my HA
system.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">Oh, and is there a xAP scheduler available
yet - something that can rival the power of the HV
scheduler?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">Cheers,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><A
NAME=""><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Arial">Paul.</FONT></SPAN></A></P>
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<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Subject: RE:
[xap_automation] receiving serial data/email
alerts?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 15:50 +0100, Paul Gale
wrote:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">> Thanks Kevin,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">> I know I can do this with HV but wanted to try it the
xAP route if</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">possible. Looks like there just isn't the functionality of HV
serial</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">handling yet in a xAP
application?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">> I have an HV pro and all the ports are used - don't
really want to spend</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">anything on an additional serial port unless there's some kind
of device</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">that allows multiple additional serial
ports?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">> I guess ACE is the way forward then - unfortunately
my ACE install</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">stopped working for some reason - won't even load
:(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">> Just thinking - instead of the physical splitting of
the RS232 lines</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">into two - is there some kind of serial mapping software that
will forward</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">on received data and appear to other applications like a
serial port</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">itself? I have 10 serial ports on the server and they're all
in use!!!</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">> Does the netiom have all the logic necessary to deal
with custom serial</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">data? I don't know much about
them.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">> Paul.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">>
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">xAPHomeVision is about to be relaunched. Major upgrading,
ahem,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">supporting BSC 1.3.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">>
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">It seems to be working here OK, so will be uploaded to my
website over</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">the weekend.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">>
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">Likewise, BSCMapper is working fine and about to be uploaded.
The extra</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">functionality is a Load/Save configuration, plus a lot of work
under the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">hood by Mary and Kevin, to allow an "inverted
map" between BSC</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">On the HV stuff, can you give me a bit more detail on what
functionality</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
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New">you'd like added, and we can add to the worklist? Mary's diary
is a lot</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
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