Re: Re: Newbie questions

[Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Bryan,

It looks like things are all setup correctly now...

HouseBot will only autocreate properties from messages it sees on xAP
- and I can confirm that if you ask Four a question via the web
interface it doesn't report the question/answer on xAP.  You can however
ask the question via xAP - in which case you would see the question and
answer updated in HouseBot.

I'll leave James to respond on quite what does , and doesn't report
via xAP, inparticular tweets...

K

From mi4 website:

You ask a question to Four using question.ask and you will receive a
reply in question.reply

Class=Question.Ask

Query
{
Ask=(Question to ask)
-- mandatory
}

---------------------------------------------

Class=Question.Reply

Response
{
Question=(Question that was asked)
-- mandatory
Answer=(Answer to the asked question)
-- mandatory
}

Question.Reply will always be targetted back to the application that
asked the question

bdstl06 wrote:
>
> An update on this effort:
>
> I have xfx-Express hub installing first and binding correctly.
>
> I have Four installing and binding to the hub. I've configured Four
> with my "second" twitter account (although I've left
"xap Sources"
> blank because I don't know what this is) to receive messages from a
> private group.
>
> I have housebot installing and binding to the hub via the xap
> interface, created an xap listener device with the Four UID, and
> Housebot automatically created an instance of several Four properties
> (Class/Block/Param). Almost all device properties are locked.
>
> I'm fairly sure the hub sees both Four and HB as connected clients,
> at least according to the
>
> Not knowing exactly what to expect, I assumed that as Four responded
> to queries via the web page or detected Tweets, and generated
> messages to the hub for distribution, new device properties
> corresponding to a Four message would show up in Housebot (perhaps
> two different block/param sets if Four treats web interface queries
> and Tweets with two different message formats). I do have auto
> create enabled.
>
> As it is, I can't see anything happening other than heartbeat
> messages at the console. From the xfx verbose console, it doesn't
> look like Four generates a message when I say, ask what time it is,
> from the Four web page. It also doesn't appear to generate a message
> in response to a tweet and can't tell if it detects the tweet.
>
> Thanks to anyone that made it this far. Any help is appreciated.
>
> Bryan
>
> --- In xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>,
"bdstl06" <bdstl06@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for this help, esp the service start order info. My
initial
> > attempt to correct the start order was to uninstall Four as a
> service,
> > reboot, and manually start xfx-Express before HB. I received the
> same
> > error as reported on the console display, but I think more
> > experimentation is necessary before I bother this group.
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
> > --- In xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>,
Paul Gale <groups2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You could also delay starting of the other apps - I do that
here
> by
> > using a free utility called delayexec.exe - that way, the loading
> > order of apps can be guaranteed by writing a small batch file.
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of Kevin
> Hawkins
> > > > Sent: 15 December 2008 00:47
> > > > To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Newbie questions
> > > >
> > > > --- In xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>,
"bdstl06" <bdstl06@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I'm using four, blue, housebot and xfx-Express
hub. With some
> > > > initial
> > > > > experimentation, I was able to see blue interact
correctly
> with
> > > > > housebot (XP, HB) by detecting messages from
another computer
> > (Vista,
> > > > > Blue, xfx-hub) with a bluetooth dongle, creating
devices
> > > > corresponding
> > > > > to attached detected devices, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've since done two things that haven't worked or
that I don't
> > > > > understand. First, I installed xfx-Express hub on
the HB XP
> > > > computer.
> > > > > It reports that that it can't bind to the socket
on the local
> host
> > > > > (alreadyinuse). Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > The hub must be the first xAP application that starts
on any
> machine.
> > > > ie it must start before HouseBot or Four. The message
it is
> giving
> > > > indicates another xAP applications has started before
it.
> > > > Installing xFX Express as a service is strongly
recommended as
> then
> > > > it's always started before any applications.
> > > >
> > > > If a xAP application appears deaf (isn't seeing
incoming
> messages) it
> > > > is a good sign that the hub isn't working. All xAP
> applications can
> > > > send messages without requiring a hub.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Second, I installed four on the HB computer. It
works, but
> shows no
> > > > > interaction with HB. Should it? My intention here
is to
> > establish a
> > > > > twitter based family messaging capability (SMS and
housebot-
> based),
> > > > but
> > > > > admittedly I'm currently just playing to get a
feel for the
> > right way
> > > > > to implement this capability. I thought four would
show up
> in HB as
> > > > a
> > > > > device.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not overly familiar with Four but HouseBot only
> automatically
> > > > creates devices from xAP devices that are using the BSC
schema.
> > > >
> > > > You can manually create devices that are linked with
individual
> > > > parameter values within any xAP schema by using a xAP
Listener
> device
> > > > (Create device > requires hardware interface >
xAP > etc).
> Likewise
> > > > you can build non NSC schema messages to send by using
a xAP
> Sender
> > > > device.
> > > >
> > > > HouseBot has a great help section on the various xAP
devices
> which
> > > > should help you as you delve further here.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any thoughts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryan
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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