Re: Re: Blue 0.1

[James Traynor <james.traynor@xxxxxxxxx>]

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Hi,

Yes an ignore feature would be a good idea, i'll get it added.
When discovering devices, blue first finds them, then asks them what
services they support. Until you get the service list you don't receive
the name. So devices without names would have failed to receive the
service list. This is also why names come and go, especially when the
devices at the range limit. Once blue gets a name it remembers it to
allow it keep sending over xap the name even though it may not receive it.
Blue=117464070371~02~W880i~120~29/06/2008 21:16:33~<Without name>
117464070371= Bluetooth ID
02= xAP UID
W880i= xAP subname
120=number of seconds before reporting a device gone.
29/06/2008 21:16:33=When device was last seen
<Without name>=name as reported by bluetooth.

Good to hear the error has gone away!

James

turner228 wrote:
>
> Hi James
>
> Blue has been running continously now since Friday with no repeat of
> the Error 91
>
> I have been away for the weekend and Blue has discovered 13 devices
>
> I now know when one nieghbour's wife arrives and leaves and when the
> other nieghbour turns on his Toshiba laptop...
> Interesting but slightly voyeuristic. Which brings me to a feature
> request, would it be possible to ignore specified devices?
> Another reason for this request is that there is one device, which
> must be on the edge of the range, which is often seen and then unseen
>
> 7 of the discovered devices have an address of Withoutname
> here is part of my settings file
>
> Blue=91453779684~01~Withoutname~120~29/06/2008 21:16:55~BT-541
> Blue=117464070371~02~W880i~120~29/06/2008 21:16:33~<Without
name>
> Blue=119969368576~03~Kevint~120~29/06/2008 18:09:45~Kevint
> Blue=141869325312~04~JennyT~120~29/06/2008 19:45:56~<Without
name>
> Blue=10514181556~05~Withoutname~120~29/06/2008 20:48:39~TOSHIBA
> Blue=8796779016502~06~rx3715~120~27/06/2008 21:43:32~rx3715
> Blue=18764998447377~07~K999~120~29/06/2008 21:16:55~K999
> Blue=133146980371~08~Withoutname~120~29/06/2008 19:48:57~<Without
> name>
> Blue=130007791294~09~Withoutname~120~29/06/2008 20:36:06~<Without
> name>
> Blue=129825244557~10~Withoutname~120~28/06/2008 16:08:12~<Without
> name>
> Blue=127120193053~11~Nokia3110c~120~29/06/2008 18:14:05~<Without
name>
> Blue=125231342553~12~Withoutname~120~29/06/2008 14:58:22~<Without
> name>
> Blue=132541263682~13~Withoutname~120~29/06/2008 19:48:56~<Without
> name>
>
> I have noticed that :-
> Some of the named devices have a text value of "Without
name"
> Some of the Withoutname devices have real text values
> Sometimes a device will report a text value of "Without name
" when
> it previously and subsequently had a name. This occurs on devices
> that have a name and also ththose which are called Withoutname
>
> Could you explain what is going on here and the relationship between
> the Bluetooth ID, the device name and the text value?
>
> Also what is the value 120?
>
> From your last post, thanks for the info about selecting the radio
> device or having multiple instances, judging by the number of devices
> I am seeing, that probably won't be necessary. I see that an
> alternative might be improving the aerial, for instance as described
> here :-
>
> http://www.dngloz.com/mods/pc-modz/bluetooth-antenna-modification.php
> <http://www.dngloz.com/mods/pc-modz/bluetooth-antenna-modification.php>
>
> And I think it would be useful to have the ability to turn off the
> discovery messages
>
> Thanks
>
> Kevin T
>
> --- In xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>,
James Traynor
> <james.traynor@...> wrote:
> >
> > I've been noticing this too. No idea why having/not having a tray
> icon
> > causes the bluetooth to timeout but it does. Still hunting for a
> fix.
> >
> > The other items you mentioned are exactly how it should happen.
The
> > display message, and the tray balloon, only ever occur once per
> device.
> > Did you want a way to disable it?
> >
> > One thing I didn't mention is that in the config file you can
> choose the
> > radio number. It defaults to 0 which is the first found bluetooth
> > dongle, but you can pick any dongle. When Blue starts up it lists
> all
> > found dongles and shows which is which. So by making copies of
> Blue and
> > the config file you can run multiple of Blue on a single PC each
> linked
> > to a different device. I though this may be useful if you wanted
> one
> > dongle at each end of the house.
> >
> > James
> >
> > turner228 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Let me know how you get on
> > >
> > > Hi James,
> > >
> > > What an excellent app! Thanks very much
> > >
> > > I can report some small bugs, though
> > >
> > > Trying it out on my own pc, running interactively so I can
see the
> > > log window. Running the original service hub, and intranet
> launcher
> > > 1.8.
> > >
> > > I have 2 Bluetooth phones running and one Ipaq RX3715
running at
> the
> > > moment.
> > >
> > > I have used 2 Bluetooth USB dongles, a Tevion v1 and a
generivc
> V2,
> > > both with the MS enumerator, with equal success
> > >
> > > Shortly after start up Blue joins the launcher, It seems to
do one
> > > search, finds the phones ok and sends out a BCS event. Then
> stops, no
> > > log messages. Does not find the Ipaq. The next BSC info says
the
> > > phones have gone away. Blue disappears from the Launcer
menu. Will
> > > reaappear if I stop launcher, but will not exit, except by
Task
> > > manager
> > >
> > > Starting Blue without Launcher it finds all 3 devices,
reports BSC
> > > events, then does repeated searches at 30 second intervals,
still
> > > finds all devices and reports with BSC infos. This seems to
be
> good
> > > and I assume is the design
> > >
> > > It does not seem necessary for the devices to be partntered
with
> the
> > > PC for all this to work, and again I assume this is by
design
> > >
> > > Just poered up my BT GPS receiver and it found it straight
away
> > > New devices are reported with message.display regardless of
any
> config
> > >
> > > Hope this helps
> > >
> > > Kevin T
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>


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Hi,<br>
<br>
Yes an ignore feature would be a good idea, i'll get it added.<br>
When discovering devices, blue first finds them, then asks them what
services they support. Until you get the service list you don't receive
the name. So devices without names would have failed to receive the
service list. This is also why names come and go, especially when the
devices at the range limit. Once blue gets a name it remembers it to
allow it keep sending over xap the name even though it may not receive
it.<br>
Blue=117464070371~02~W880i~120~29/06/2008 21:16:33~&lt;Without
name&gt;<br>
117464070371= Bluetooth ID<br>
02= xAP UID<br>
W880i= xAP subname<br>
120=number of seconds before reporting a device gone.<br>
29/06/2008 21:16:33=When device was last seen<br>
&lt;Without name&gt;=name as reported by bluetooth.<br>
<br>
Good to hear the error has gone away!<br>
<br>
James<br>
<br>
turner228 wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:g48rud+kdpg@xxxxxxx"
type="cite">
<div id="ygrp-text">
<p>Hi James<br>
<br>
Blue has been running continously now since Friday with no repeat of
<br>
the Error 91<br>
<br>
I have been away for the weekend and Blue has discovered 13
devices<br>
<br>
I now know when one nieghbour's wife arrives and leaves and when the
<br>
other nieghbour turns on his Toshiba laptop...<br>
Interesting but slightly voyeuristic. Which brings me to a feature
<br>
request, would it be possible to ignore specified devices?<br>
Another reason for this request is that there is one device, which
<br>
must be on the edge of the range, which is often seen and then
unseen<br>
<br>
7 of the discovered devices have an address of Withoutname<br>
here is part of my settings file<br>
<br>
Blue=91453779684~<wbr>01~Withoutname~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
21:16:55~BT-<wbr>541<br>
Blue=117464070371~<wbr>02~W880i~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
21:16:33~&lt;Without name&gt;<br>
Blue=119969368576~<wbr>03~Kevint~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
18:09:45~Kevint<br>
Blue=141869325312~<wbr>04~JennyT~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
19:45:56~&lt;Without name&gt;<br>
Blue=10514181556~<wbr>05~Withoutname~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
20:48:39~TOSHIBA<br>
Blue=8796779016502~<wbr>06~rx3715~<wbr>120~27/06/<wbr>2008
21:43:32~rx3715<br>
Blue=18764998447377<wbr>~07~K999~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
21:16:55~K999<br>
Blue=133146980371~<wbr>08~Withoutname~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
19:48:57~&lt;Without <br>
name&gt;<br>
Blue=130007791294~<wbr>09~Withoutname~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
20:36:06~&lt;Without <br>
name&gt;<br>
Blue=129825244557~<wbr>10~Withoutname~<wbr>120~28/06/<wbr>2008
16:08:12~&lt;Without <br>
name&gt;<br>
Blue=127120193053~<wbr>11~Nokia3110c~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
18:14:05~&lt;Without name&gt;<br>
Blue=125231342553~<wbr>12~Withoutname~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
14:58:22~&lt;Without <br>
name&gt;<br>
Blue=132541263682~<wbr>13~Withoutname~<wbr>120~29/06/<wbr>2008
19:48:56~&lt;Without <br>
name&gt;<br>
<br>
I have noticed that :-<br>
Some of the named devices have a text value of "Without
name"<br>
Some of the Withoutname devices have real text values<br>
Sometimes a device will report a text value of "Without name "
when <br>
it previously and subsequently had a name. This occurs on devices
<br>
that have a name and also ththose which are called Withoutname<br>
<br>
Could you explain what is going on here and the relationship between
<br>
the Bluetooth ID, the device name and the text value?<br>
<br>
Also what is the value 120?<br>
<br>