Re: Re: Vendor name for SlimDevices?

[mph@xxxx]

Stuart,

:-)

On the "is it running on the SliMP3 or the server"... I don't
really see it
matters.

The issue is "where does this leave the xAP world, and move into a
proprietary
protocol."

For example, the PIC-based device that will control my Meridian hi-fi is
running in a PIC box... however, it'll still be called
"Meridian", rather
than "Meridian-connector".

Frankly, if it's to control a SliMP3 in the office, I think it should be
called
SliMP3.office - irrespective of whether it's physically implemented as a
server
process that controls using Slim's proprietary protocol, a RABBIT that
babble
to the Slim's serial port, or a bizarre thing that fires custom IR across
the
landing...

M.

Quoting Stuart Booth <<a
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> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:11:36 +0000, <a
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wrote:
>
> >Stuart,
> >
> >The format, AIUI, is:
> >
> ><software developer for that connector>.<type of
device>.<instance of
> device>
> >
> >In this case:
> >
> ><software developer for that connector> is you, KCSoft, and
set by the
> >developer.
> >
> ><type of device> is a SliMP3, and is set by the developer.
> >
> ><instance of device> would be the actual device, and is set
by the
> installer.
>
> Ahhh, now I'm starting to understand all you guys' train of thoughts.
> That is clearer.
>
> >This gives KCSoft.SliMP3.office as the correct addressing for:
> >
> >- The KCSoft software
> >- Running on a SliMP3
> >- In the office
>
> But the software isn't running on a SliMP3, and it isn't running in
> the office. It's a separate application running on my Server, hence
> "KCSoft.SliMP3-Connector.Server" is the correct address for
the actual
> connector software I believe?
>
> Are we sending messages to the connector application or to the Slim in
> your example above. I can see what you're both getting at I think, but
> it still feels unnatural.
>
> "KCSoft.SliMP3.Office" suggests to me:-
>
> The KCSoft sofware.
> That controls a SliMP3.
> That is located in the office.
>
> This is referring to two beautiful and unique snowflakes (;-). Two
> separate entities on the network in one address. It seems a little
> ambiguous.
>
> I think it feels right to send messages to the Slim rather than to the
> connector, as this rids us of a dependency on the type of software
> running, and makes things more transparent.
>
> >It is, again, up to the INSTALLER to understand what has been
installed. It
> is
> >NOT up to the developer to assume that they can understand the
topology.
> >
> >Obviously, in the case of a developer devloping for their own
personal use,
> the
> >temptation is to take shortcuts, but this overall doesn't benefit
the
> >community, and the hope is to leverage the work of LOTS of
developers, so
> that
> >no-one needs to develop more than a small piece.
>
> Well, I can still do both - The official way and the installer's (me!)
> way for his own use :-)))
>
> Stuart
>
>
> >Quoting Stuart Booth <<a
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> >
> >> Slim target addresses. The options as I currently see them:
> >>
> >> 1. target=SlimDevi.SliMP3.Office
> >> 2. target=KCSoft.SliMP3.Office
> >> 3. target=KCSoft.SliMP3-Connector.Server
> >>
> >> 1. is clearly the Slim itself and not a particular software
> >> application.
> >> 2. is a bodge up of my connector application and the Slim's
device
> >> address to form one address.
> >> 3. is the address of my connector application, which no
longer
> >> contains any information about which particular Slim to
control.
> >>
> >> I do not like #2 - it feels wrong and unnatural.
> >> Are these options complete or incorrect in some way?
> >> Or am I missing the point entirely?
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >> --
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