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PS. Just to be clear - the serial device talks native xAP.
2010/1/6 Patrick Lidstone <patrick@xxxxxxx>
> I think the definition of serial bridge here is a serial based (RS232
or
> RS485) device that participates in a 'conventional' UDP
broadcast/ethernet
> xAP network.
>
> Typically this is achieved either using either a PC - and passing xAP
> messages from the IP network to serial port and vice versa, or using
an
> embedded device such as the lantronix IP to serial converters. I have
> implemented both at various points... it's useful for integrating
really low
> end/low power devices such as temperature or movement sensors into the
xAP
> world whilst minimising the overall number of moving parts/improving
> reliability over alternative approaches.
>
> HTH
> Patrick
>
> 2010/1/6 brett england <brett@xxxxxxx>
>
>
>>
>> As in IP ->> Serial link ->> IP
>>
>>
>>
>> Well I guess you could implement PPP on the serial link and the
packet
>> would just broadcast as per usual, if is on the same subnet.
>>
>> Failing that writing a bridge wouldn't be too difficult.
>>
>> What are you trying to do?
>>
>> Brett
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xAP_developer@xxxxxxx [mailto:
>> xAP_developer@xxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Neil Wrightson
>> *Sent:* 06 January 2010 10:51
>> *To:* xAP_developer@xxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* [xAP_developer] Serial bridge availability
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Does a serial bridge exist for xAP?
>>
>>
>>
>> I.e.
>> Bridging
>>
>> xAP is, so far is as practicable, network agnostic. Where two
networks are
>> to be joined, so that xAP messages can be passed between then, a
software
>> bridge is used. The bridge understands the implementation details
of the xAP
>> protocol on each physical network, and performs the necessary
protocol
>> conversions to pass the message from one network to another.
>>
>> In some cases, the bridge may provide a configuration interface to
allow
>> traffic in one or both directions to be restricted.
>>
>> A proposal has been made to permit messages to be flagged
"non-routable"
>> in the xAP-Header, and for bridges to never pass these messages.
Currently
>> this item is still open.
>>
>> Messages passed over the bridge always have the xAP-header hop
count
>> increased. A bridge may be configured to discard messages with
hop-count > n
>> to prevent looping/broadcast storms.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> *Neil Wrightson.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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PS. Just to be clear - the serial device talks native
xAP.<br><br><div clas=
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I think the definition of serial bridge here is a serial based (RS232 or
RS=
485) device that participates in a 'conventional' UDP
broadcast/eth=
ernet xAP network.<br><br>Typically this is achieved either
using either a =
PC - and passing xAP messages from the IP network to serial port and vice
v=
ersa, or using an embedded device such as the lantronix IP to serial
conver=
ters. I have implemented both at various points... it's useful for
inte=
grating really low end/low power devices such as temperature or movement
se=
nsors into the xAP world whilst minimising the overall number of moving
par=
ts/improving reliability over alternative approaches.<br>
<br>HTH<br>Patrick<br><br><div
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:
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25);">As in IP ->> Serial link ->> IP
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:
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25);">Well I guess you could implement PPP on the serial link and
the
packet would just broadcast as per usual, if is on the same
subnet.</span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:
11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25);">Failing that writing a bridge wouldn't be too
difficult.</span></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:
11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25);">What are you trying to do?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:
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25);">Brett</span></p>
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xAP_developer@xxxxxxx</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Neil
Wrightson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 January 2010 10:51<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:xAP_developer@xxxxxxx";
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<b>Subject:</b> [xAP_developer] Serial bridge
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
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All,</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:
10pt;">Does
a serial=A0bridge exist for xAP?</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:
10pt;">I.e.</span></p>
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<h2><span>Bridging</span></h2>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">xAP is, so
far is as practicable, network agnostic. Where two networks are to be
joine=
d,
so that xAP messages can be passed between then, a software bridge is
used.=
The
bridge understands the implementation details of the xAP protocol on each
physical network, and performs the necessary protocol conversions to pass
t=
he
message from one network to another. </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">In some
cases, the bridge may provide a configuration interface to allow traffic
in=
one
or both directions to be restricted. </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">A proposal
has been made to permit messages to be flagged
"non-routable" in =
the
xAP-Header, and for bridges to never pass these messages. Currently this
it=
em
is still open. </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">Messages
passed over the bridge always have the xAP-header hop count increased. A
br=
idge
may be configured to discard messages with hop-count > n to prevent
looping/broadcast storms. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:
10pt;">Regards,</span>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><b><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">Neil
Wrightson.</span></b> </p>
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