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RE: Switcher feature request
- Subject: RE: Switcher feature request
- From: Tony Butler
- Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 21:15:00 +0000
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<div class="Section1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>I’m
first in line to have his <span class="GramE">babies
:</span>-D<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>The <span
class="SpellE">autosplit</span>
sounds funky – my yam amp does this at the moment & is
useful…..<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>K –
<span class="GramE">you’re</span>
wrong (gasp) about needing the Ethernet point in your example of the
switcher
in the lounge – we’re all 802.11b’ed up these
days aren’t
we? </span></font><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Wingdings"><span><span>J</span></span></font><font
size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>BTW, any
timescales on Mk2 (note: not
asking after the switcher!!) and will the upgrade for Mk1 have <span
class="SpellE">scart</span> control as well as IR?
<span> </span>When last u mentioned an upgrade for
Mk1,
<span class="SpellE">scart</span> control was not in
the
frame…..<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span>Tony<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>(I hate
discussing the switcher as it makes
me <span class="SpellE">soooooooooo</span> want it
now all over
again!!!!)<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US">-----Original
Message-----
<b><span>From:</span></b> Phillip Harris
[mailto:phil@xxxxxxx]
<b><span>Sent:</span></b>
</span></font><st1><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US">09 June
2002</span></font></st1><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US">
</span></font><st1><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span
lang="EN-US">20:32</span></font></st1><font
size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
lang="EN-US">
<b><span>To:</span></b> kat5-users@xxxxxxx
<b><span>Subject:</span></b> RE: [KAT5] Switcher
feature request</span></font></p>
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face="Times New
Roman"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>Don't you just
love 'im?</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>Phil</span></font><o></o></p>
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<blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US">-----Original
Message-----
<b><span>From:</span></b> Keith Doxey
[mailto:keith.doxey@xxxxxxx]
<b><span>Sent:</span></b>
</span></font><st1><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US">09 June
2002</span></font></st1><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US">
</span></font><st1><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span
lang="EN-US">20:16</span></font></st1><font
size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
lang="EN-US">
<b><span>To:</span></b> kat5-users@xxxxxxx
<b><span>Subject:</span></b> RE: [KAT5] Switcher
feature request</span></font><span
lang="EN-US"><o></o></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>The design
allows complete control of any
crosspoint if given the correct
commands.</span></font><o></o></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>It would be
possible to choose </span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>
Luminance from source
1</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>
Chrominance from source
8</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span> Left
Audio from source
3</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span> Right
audio from source
2</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>but the
results would probably be strange
to say the least.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>Normal control
would be to select Audio
and Video from the same
source</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>EG. 1,2,3,4
etc</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>Because I
suspect many people will have
audio only sources and video only sources such as CCTV it will also be
possible
to select for example A1 or
V6.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>I *DO* plan to
have an *AutoSplit* feature
whereby if you choose a source that is defined as Audio only, the video
will
stay on the last selected channel, likewise for video only
sources.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>eg</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>1
SKY</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>2
Tivo</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>3 ITV
Digital</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>4
DVD</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>5
VCR</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>6
Entertainment PC</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>7 Radio
Tuner (Audio
Only) </span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>8 Door
Camera (Video
Only)</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>If you had
Source 1 and then selected 8
you would be viewing the camera but listening to SKY. Selecting 4 would
re-combine Audio and Video so that you were watching DVD with
sound.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>I anticipate
that *IF* I make absolute
crosspoint control available it would have to be done by specific commands
over
the serial interface to avoid making operation via remote control too
clumsy.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>At some point
there will be Digital Audio
units with an add-on for the
switcher.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>Once all the
cards are available you could
have a unit with all 8x8 inputs as Phono....but how will you distribute
them ?</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>The whole
point of KAT5 is as a
"Distributed" system. People have already found a lack of CAT5
cables
to various locations so the ideal place for the switcher is Node 0 with
distribution from there. A single CAT5 to each room with a TV. Many of the
source devices will also be able to sit in Node 0 such as digibox, PC, ITV
digital etc. The only sources not pracical for node 0 are CCTV cameras
which
obviously have to be where thay are needed and source Equipment such as
DVD,
CD, and VCR where the media is required to be physically
changed.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>If you had an
8x8 switcher in the lounge
with DVD, SAT, TIVO and remote PC, 4 x CCTV over KAT5, you then
feed this
to 7 other locations (6 rooms and the projector) you would need 13 CAT5
cables
(5 sources, 7 destinations, 1 ethernet) for the switcher from the Lounge to
Node
0.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>In the example
above the lounge would have
TV and DVD (2 cables) everything else would be direct from Node
0.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue" face="Arial"><span>MK2 will be IR
control AND SCART
Control.</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
face="Times New
Roman"><span> <o></o></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="blue"
face="Arial"><span>Keith</span></font><o></o></p>
</div>
<blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span>-----Original Message-----
<b><span>From:</span></b> Tony Butler
[mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
<b><span>Sent:</span></b> 09 June 2002 19:47
<b><span>To:</span></b> kat5-users@xxxxxxx
<b><span>Subject:</span></b> RE: [KAT5] Switcher
feature request</span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>Excellent
news!<span> </span>Thought you might have that one
covered
already.<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>Now to be
_<i><span>Really</span></i>_ picky, what if I want
to have the Left audio channel
from one source and the Right from
another?<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>Not just to
test the flexibility of your
design I might add – this could be useful if you were watching TV
for
instance and wanted to quickly check the baby monitoring audio channel, so
you
just flick the left audio and away you go – you can still hear
(1/2) of
what’s going on on the
box!<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>Whilst
we’re on the subject of the
switcher – I know you haven’t done any digital audio
KAT5 units
yet, but do you think the switcher will be able to handle switching digital
whenever it makes an
appearance???<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>Oh yes, and
your comments about the first
cards are interesting – I’d always envisaged it as an
all in one
unit ala the Linn Intersekt, but it seems this will be a bit of a spider
jobbie
with loads of Kat5 units hanging off it.<span>
</span>Do you think you’ll do an all in one 8x8 unit or is
it just too
much hassle?<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>I guess you
get the flexibility with the
spider approach that you just buy the switcher and add KAT5 units as and
when
required……<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span>Cheers,<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy"
face="Arial"><span>Tony<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="navy" face="Arial"><span>PS (Mk 2 Kat5
units – when??<span>
</span>Cost???<span> </span>Thought
Mk2 had IR control –
do u mean Mk3, or is Mk2 going to have the full shooting
match????<o></o></span></font></p>
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