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RE: Switcher feature request
- Subject: RE: Switcher feature request
- From: Phillip Harris
- Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 21:33:00 +0000
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<DIV><SPAN class="079303120-09062002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I
was never too concerned about the idea of digital audio switching until I
ran out of AV + Digital Audio inputs on my DSP-A1 but it would be a good
way to implement additional inputs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="079303120-09062002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class="079303120-09062002"><FONT
face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
size="2">Phil</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us"
dir="ltr" align="left"><FONT
face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tony Butler [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 09 June 2002
21:16<BR><B>To:</B>
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [KAT5] Switcher
feature request<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class="Section1">
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>I’m
first in line to have his <SPAN class="GramE">babies
:</SPAN>-D<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>The <SPAN
class="SpellE">autosplit</SPAN> sounds funky –
my yam amp does this at the moment & is
useful…..<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>K –
<SPAN class="GramE">you’re</SPAN> wrong
(gasp) about needing the Ethernet point in your example of the switcher in
the lounge – we’re all 802.11b’ed up these
days aren’t we? </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Wingdings" color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><SPAN>J</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Arial" color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>BTW, any
timescales on Mk2 (note: not asking after the switcher!!) and will the
upgrade for Mk1 have <SPAN
class="SpellE">scart</SPAN> control as well as IR?
<SPAN> </SPAN>When last u mentioned an upgrade for
Mk1, <SPAN class="SpellE">scart</SPAN> control was
not in the
frame…..<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN>Tony<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>(I hate discussing
the switcher as it makes me <SPAN
class="SpellE">soooooooooo</SPAN> want it now all over
again!!!!)<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-US">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN>From:</SPAN></B>
Phillip Harris [mailto:phil@xxxxxxx]
<BR><B><SPAN>Sent:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><st1><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-US">09 June
2002</SPAN></FONT></st1><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-US">
</SPAN></FONT><st1><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN
lang="EN-US">20:32</SPAN></FONT></st1><FONT
face="Tahoma" size="2"><SPAN
lang="EN-US"><BR><B><SPAN>To:</SPAN></B>
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN>Subject:</SPAN></B>
RE: [KAT5]
Switcher feature request</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>Don't you just
love
'im?</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>Phil</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-US">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN>From:</SPAN></B>
Keith Doxey [mailto:keith.doxey@xxxxxxx]
<BR><B><SPAN>Sent:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><st1><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-US">09 June
2002</SPAN></FONT></st1><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-US">
</SPAN></FONT><st1><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN
lang="EN-US">20:16</SPAN></FONT></st1><FONT
face="Tahoma" size="2"><SPAN
lang="EN-US"><BR><B><SPAN>To:</SPAN></B>
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN>Subject:</SPAN></B>
RE: [KAT5] Switcher feature request</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
lang="EN-US"><o></o></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>The design allows
complete control of any crosspoint if given the correct
commands.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>It would be
possible to choose
</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN> Luminance
from source
1</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>
Chrominance from source
8</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN> Left Audio
from source
3</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN> Right
audio from source
2</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>but the results
would probably be strange to say the
least.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>Normal control
would be to select Audio and Video from the same
source</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>EG. 1,2,3,4
etc</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>Because I suspect
many people will have audio only sources and video only sources such as
CCTV it will also be possible to select for example A1 or
V6.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>I *DO* plan to
have an *AutoSplit* feature whereby if you choose a source that is defined
as Audio only, the video will stay on the last selected channel, likewise
for video only
sources.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>eg</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>1
SKY</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>2
Tivo</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>3 ITV
Digital</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>4
DVD</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>5
VCR</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>6
Entertainment
PC</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>7 Radio
Tuner (Audio
Only)
</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>8 Door
Camera (Video
Only)</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>If you had Source
1 and then selected 8 you would be viewing the camera but listening to SKY.
Selecting 4 would re-combine Audio and Video so that you were watching DVD
with
sound.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>I anticipate that
*IF* I make absolute crosspoint control available it would have to be done
by specific commands over the serial interface to avoid making operation
via remote control too
clumsy.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>At some point
there will be Digital Audio units with an add-on for the
switcher.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>Once all the cards
are available you could have a unit with all 8x8 inputs as Phono....but how
will you distribute them
?</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>The whole point of
KAT5 is as a "Distributed" system. People have already found a
lack of CAT5 cables to various locations so the ideal place for the
switcher is Node 0 with distribution from there. A single CAT5 to each room
with a TV. Many of the source devices will also be able to sit in Node 0
such as digibox, PC, ITV digital etc. The only sources not pracical for
node 0 are CCTV cameras which obviously have to be where thay are needed
and source Equipment such as DVD, CD, and VCR where the media is required
to be physically
changed.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>If you had an 8x8
switcher in the lounge with DVD, SAT, TIVO and remote PC, 4 x CCTV
over KAT5, you then feed this to 7 other locations (6 rooms and the
projector) you would need 13 CAT5 cables (5 sources, 7 destinations, 1
ethernet) for the switcher from the Lounge to Node
0.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>In the example
above the lounge would have TV and DVD (2 cables) everything else would be
direct from Node
0.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue" size="2"><SPAN>MK2 will be IR
control AND SCART
Control.</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New
Roman"
size="3"><SPAN> <o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="blue"
size="2"><SPAN>Keith</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Tahoma"
size="2"><SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN>From:</SPAN></B>
Tony Butler [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]<BR><B><SPAN>Sent:</SPAN></B>
09 June 2002 19:47<BR><B><SPAN>To:</SPAN></B>
kat5-users@xxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN>Subject:</SPAN></B>
RE: [KAT5] Switcher feature
request</SPAN></FONT><o></o></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Excellent
news!<SPAN> </SPAN>Thought you might have that one
covered already.<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Now to be
_<I><SPAN>Really</SPAN></I>_ picky, what if I want
to have the Left audio channel from one source and the Right from
another?<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Not just to test
the flexibility of your design I might add – this could be useful
if you were watching TV for instance and wanted to quickly check the baby
monitoring audio channel, so you just flick the left audio and away you go
– you can still hear (1/2) of what’s going on on the
box!<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Whilst
we’re on the subject of the switcher – I know you
haven’t done any digital audio KAT5 units yet, but do you think
the switcher will be able to handle switching digital whenever it makes an
appearance???<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>Oh yes, and your
comments about the first cards are interesting – I’d
always envisaged it as an all in one unit ala the Linn Intersekt, but it
seems this will be a bit of a spider jobbie with loads of Kat5 units
hanging off it.<SPAN> </SPAN>Do you think
you’ll do an all in one 8x8 unit or is it just too much
hassle?<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>I guess you get
the flexibility with the spider approach that you just buy the switcher and
add KAT5 units as and when
required……<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN>Cheers,<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN><o> </o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy"
size="2"><SPAN>Tony<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial"
color="navy" size="2"><SPAN>PS (Mk 2 Kat5
units – when??<SPAN>
</SPAN>Cost???<SPAN> </SPAN>Thought
Mk2 had IR control – do u mean Mk3, or is Mk2 going to have the
full shooting
match????<o></o></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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