Re: Sparkies

["Simon Coates" <ecolume@xxxxxxx>]

As a rule of thumb - work out how long you think it would take and DOUBLE
IT!

I've been rewiring my house with an electrician for the last three weeks
and
we're only a third of the way through.  Then there's the 2nd fix to do on
top.  Then there's the setting up of HV, Comfort, CCTV system, IR system,
A/V system etc....

The electrician that's done your quote may have used trade prices.  Cable
is
a very heavily discounted wholesale item.  For example I get about 90%
discount off list trade price on stuff like T&E.

You need a breakdown of the work - materials + labour - and an estimate of
how long it will take.

Also, why have you got 162 runs of Cat5 ???  Seems a lot!

Hope you get it sorted out :o)

Regards

Simon


----- Original Message -----
From: Julian Samphire <tricky_item@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: 03 September 2001 18:19
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Sparkies


> Hi Phil,
>
> I totaly understand this, however I didnt mention in my email (but
have
> in my latest email) that this just involves putting in the cabling.
>
> On another note, they wont start work until I have paid for it...
>
> Regards,
>
> Jules
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Phil Harris" <phillip.harris1@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 18:07:49 +0100
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Sparkies
>
> > Before we get too mercenary over the prices here perhaps one or
more of
> > the
> > sparkies that contribute to this group would like to make
comment.
> >
> > Regarding prices for cable etc. ... we (as confirmed DIYers) are
quite
> > happy
> > to try several different places to secure a better price however
> > electricians have their dealers with whom they have credit terms
etc.
> > and
> > hence they don't tend to shop around on a day-to-day basis for
the best
> > prices for the customer - they look for the best terms for them.
After
> > all,
> > they are well aware that the customer is going to sit on their
invoice
> > for
> > as long as possible before paying up and the last thing they want
to do
> > is
> > shell out "x" amount of money straight away when they
might not get
> > paid for
> > a couple of months! If a supplier gives them a month to settle an
> > account
> > then that's a month less that they're out of pocket - if they're
more
> > expensive then the cost just gets passed through to the customer
> > anyway.
> >
> > I'm not saying that this cost is correct - it does seem high to
me too
> > - but
> > I'm just saying that there's other reasons apart from being a
> > money-grabbing-basket for prices to be higher.
> >
> > As an example ... an electrician friend put me onto CEF recently
for
> > some
> > parts, even offered to let me get them on his trade account if I
needed
> > to
> > and settle up with him on the billing date. For some of the stuff
that
> > I got
> > they were dirt cheap - 305m of CAT5e for about £29 IIRC but for
other
> > stuff
> > they were quite horrendously expensive, CAT5 outlets and wall
plates
> > were
> > scary prices!
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: james.2.winspear@xxxxxxx [mailto:james.2.winspear@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 03 September 2001 17:36
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Sparkies
> > >
> > >
> > > Definitely heard the cash till going there !
> > >   You can definitely get the cable costs to less than 1000
Pounds
> > (Off the
> > > top of my head), which then only leaves the Hourly Rate.  I
live in
> > the
> > > South of England, and yet can still get a sparkie at about
10 Pounds
> > per
> > > hour.  If installed during 1st fix of a well
designed/managed build,
> > it
> > > should be relatively quick (days not weeks, for cabling,
terminations
> > > excluded).
> > >   I'd suggest pointing out exactly what cable-types you
want, and use
> > some
> > > of the specific options emailed here, and ask them again to
> > > provide several
> > > sparkies quotes.
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > >
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