Re: Speakers for announcements

["psghome2002" <psghome@xxxxxxx>]

For the sake of a few quid, I'd definately run a pair of cables to
each speaker location and coil up the unused one (long enough to
reach wherever you could put an additional speaker). Depends on how
easy the cable running is though - if it's easy to run additional
cable in the future, you might not want to bother now and save the
few pounds.

I can't see any reason for running more than 2 cables.


--- In ukha_d@y..., "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@k...> wrote:
> Thanks Paul,
> I'll go with your advice and put some better quality ones, so if I want
> better quality sound in some later stage, in e.g. bedroom, I'll
just buy
> better quality speaker for that room.
> I am still glad to know that even putting lower quality cable
would work
> fine. That gives a bit of redundancy.
> What do you think, is one cable enough?
> For announcements it should be. If I want to switch to stereo
music later,
> placement of speakers is important, I suppose, for re-creating
sound stage.
> Therefore, there's no point planning anything like that, because,
I don't
> have much options regarding placement.
>
> Regards,
> Nik
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: psghome2002 [mailto:psghome@h...]
>   Sent: 14 July 2002 11:15
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx >   Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Speakers for announcements
>
>
>   Putting in good quality cable at this stage would be a goo= d
idea -
>   even if you initially use cheap speakers for just announce= ments
and
>   TTS etc - you can then upgrade in the future if you want, = without
>   having to re-cable.
>
>   Don't have any recommendations for cheaper speakers though= .
>
>   --- In ukha_d@y..., "Nikola Kasic" <nikola@k.= ..> wrote:
>   > No, this is new development, so they make lower ceili= ng to
squeeze
>   as much
>   > floors as possible. :-).
>   > So, how will I know that speakers are good enough? >   > I'll go for hi-fi speaker cables then, probably from = Richer
Sounds.
>   > Any recommendations, but not too expensive?
>   > Nik
>   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   From: psghome2002 [mailto:psghome@h...] >   >   Sent: 13 July 2002 22:06
>   >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx >   >   Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Speakers for announ= cements
>   >
>   >
>   >   Even if you go for KAT5 (As I have done a= lso), you'll still
need
>   the
>   >   same kit - amp(s), speaker cable and spea= kers.
>   >
>   >   My speaker cable is not shielded - it run= s through the floor
>   (long
>   >   runs) and crosses mains in several places= (a lot of extra
mains
>   >   wiring for the X10 lighting - all runs to= the loft to
LD11's).
>   I've
>   >   not had any noise problems - audio is ver= y clear.
>   >
>   >   Are you living in a bunker by any chance = ;)
>   >
>   >   Paul.
>   >
>   >
>   >   --- In ukha_d@y..., "Nikola Kasic&qu= ot; <nikola@k...> wrote:
>   >   > Ha, in most of the rooms ceiling is = concrete. Only the
halway
>   has
>   >   suspended
>   >   > ceiling through which I plan to put = all the wires.
>   >   > So, it's not possible to mount them = in the ceiling.
>   >   > These speakers will be mono, because= I will use them for
>   >   anouncements only,
>   >   > so this is all a bit too expensive f= or me.
>   >   > If I decide to go for a home audio, = I'll probably use KAT5.
>   >   > Is your speaker cable shielded, and = does it cross any power
>   lines?
>   >   > Does it pick any noise?
>   >   > Nik
>   >   >   -----Original Message---= --
>   >   >   From: psghome2002 [mailt= o:psghome@h...]
>   >   >   Sent: 13 July 2002 18:38=
>   >   >   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx >   >   >   Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Sp= eakers for announcements
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   That's a pretty small sp= eaker requirement then! How about
>   putting
>   >   >   them in the ceiling - I'= ve got 7 sets of ceiling
speakers in
>   >   various
>   >   >   rooms. They sound great = and look very good (probably less
>   obvious
>   >   >   than wall speakers). I w= ent for a variety of models
>   including:
>   >   >
>   >   >   Sonance GRM2 - Single st= ereo to mono summing speaker
(water
>   >   >   resistant) - for use in = the bathroom =A390 ish
>   >   >
>   >   >   Systemline QED - Stereo = pair for general areas =A3130 ish
>   >   >
>   >   >   Sonance 621 - Good quali= ty stereo pair for listening
rooms
>   =A3240
>   >   ish
>   >   >
>   >   >   Also used 79 stand OFC c= able
>   >   >
>   >   >   May be OTT for your requ= irements (whole lot cost over
=A31000 -
>   >   cheap
>   >   >   compared to what you can= easily spend). My system was
>   primarily a
>   >   >   whole-house audio system= with feeds for Comfort, ACE TTS
etc.
>   >   >
>   >   >   Paul.
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   --- In ukha_d@y..., &quo= t;Nikola Kasic" <nikola@k...> wrote:
>   >   >   > The time has come..= .
>   >   >   > I am ready to put s= ome more cable throughout the flat.
I
>   >   >   downloaded homeseer
>   >   >   > yesterday, for a tr= ial and saw that I should really
have
>   some
>   >   >   speakers for
>   >   >   > announcements.
>   >   >   > Inital plan is to p= ut small wall speaker in each room
(5+2,
>   >   >   kitchen, lounge,
>   >   >   > hallway, 2 bedrooms= + 2 bathrooms).
>   >   >   > I plan to put them = above the doors in each room.
Bathroom
>   ones
>   >   >   must be water
>   >   >   > resistant. Internal= walls are very thin, 5 cm including
>   >   plaster on
>   >   >   both
>   >   >   > sides. Plaster is a= bout 12mm, so I have just 38mm from
>   surface
>   >   to
>   >   >   the back
>   >   >   > of the plaster on t= he other side of the wall.
>   >   >   > Did anyone see such= a thin speakers, preferrably in
white.
>   >   >   > Are there any stand= ards in speaker sizes, so if speaker
>   dies at
>   >   >   some point
>   >   >   > later I'll have no = problems replacing it? I don't want
some
>   >   funny
>   >   >   shapes, so
>   >   >   > I have problems fin= ding spare later.
>   >   >   > And, most important= question: What kind of cable to
put for
>   >   that
>   >   >   speaker?
>   >   >   > I suppose hi-fi spe= aker cable should be fine, but are
they
>   an
>   >   >   overkill?
>   >   >   > Also, because it's = crossing power lines, wouldn't it be
>   better
>   >   if
>   >   >   it's
>   >   >   > shielded? Also, the= y are thick, generally speaking,
should
>   I
>   >   go for
>   >   >   > something thinner?<= BR> >   >   >   > Please come with yo= ur experiences, because once I put
it
>   in, it
>   >   >   will be
>   >   >   > impossible to repla= ce it later.
>   >   >   > Cheers,
>   >   >   > Nik
>   >   >
>   >   >
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