Re: Leaving my isdn in, new line for adsl - Was Woohoo...

["Neil Fuller" <neil@xxxxxxx>]

I was in this situation a while ago - I had HH and wanted to move to BB but= keep both of my 'analogue' line numbers.

As BB has one 'digital connection' (DSL) and one 'analogue connection, I *h= ad* to have another line run in.

When I ordered the additional line, I specified that is was for DSL. BT agr= eed that if the line was not OK , they would remove it and there would be n= o cost.

My original line was 2.6 km long but the new line turned out to be over 11 = km ! (it had to run via the next village as there were no spare pairs).

BT were quite prepared to remove the line but that would have meant no DSL = :-(( so I had the original line converted and the 'spare' number renumbered= on to the new line. (the downside is that it cost an extra =A335 but hey-h= o - It's only figures on the credit card bill)

So, the original line now carries Voice and DSL and the new line is Voice o= nly.

My ISP (nildram - the speed rocks!!) set it up so that if the line tests (a= ttenuation, woosh etc) failed, I would be converted back to H.H at no cost.=

The final result is that I now have RADSL via Nildram, who I can't reccomen= d highly enough - I check the line speed every week and it's always close t= o the max and their customer services is second to none.

If you want a painless upgrade from H.H or ISDN, give them ago -> http://www.nildram.co.uk/

Keith.D - If you're reading this - You're gonna L-O-V-E ADSL!!

Finally, if you have any questions regarding DSL, check out http://www.adslguide.org.uk/

HNY to all

Regards

Neil
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Stuart Booth
  To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
  Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Leaving my isdn in, new line for adsl - Was Wo= ohoo...


  On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 14:59:28 -0000, "Richard Challis"
  <richard@xxxxxxx> wrote:

  >I know where the exchange is, I should be within the limit.

  You can dial some funky number do to a line test on a number. This   also tells you how far from the exchange you are, but whether it's   accurate is another thing.

  I believe it's 17070, then press 3, then 1, finally 2 to get a
  callback.

  >I think stating on a fax order that the line is for conversion t= o ADSL
  >should cover my butt slightly. It's a 75 quid (plus line rental = for a year)
  >gamble and I do enjoy a good argument with BT :)

  Do keep up informed. I'm in this situation too.

  >I know they won't be able to DACS (I think that's the line doubl= er unit
  >isn't it?) my existing line as it's a isdn. Would the engineer c= onsider
  >putting such a unit on someone else's line to add my new line?
  AIUI BT are no longer allowed to degrade somebody's existing service= .
  So moving somebody on to a DACS isn't allowed. But if there were a   spare connection to an existing DACS, your new line might be placed = on
  that I suppose. No idea here of course. I thought they were trying t= o
  get rid of the DACS boxes.

  >I believe that if you state it is for Redcare use they won't dou= ble the
  >line. But Redcare I don't believe works on a ADSL line anyhow?!<= BR>
  What's Redcare?

  >If they do double the line up - will this void the ADSL checks? = Would they
  >remove/consider removing anything like this on the line if they = were to
  >accept the order?

  As it's a 2 stage process I'd imagine you'd get your new line and TH= EN
  they'd to a line test. If you were DACS-ed (you'd know simply by
  attempting to connect to a dailup ISP with an analogue modem and wat= ch
  the truly dismal connection speed you end up with) they'd look to   remove you from the DACS box. But if they had to install you on that=
  in the first place to add a new line, you'd probably get rejected??<= BR>
  Don't know, but I have had some experience of the aforementioned
  dismal connection speeds, ADSL applications and ISDN installations s= o
  I speak from at least limited experience.

  Stuart
  --
  Stuart Booth
  Somewhere in Buckinghamshire, England, UK

  stuart@xxxxxxx
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