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Hi,
LD11 devices are supported using the X10 Direct Dim command. You need to
set
them up as 'Pro Dimmer' devices and control them using the xAP BSC
protocol.
Let me know if that's not working for you - it works for me.
I'm using the DIN-rail mounted LD11 dimmer -
http://www.simplyautomate.co.uk/productDisplay.asp?prodId=3432
Not tried anything else, including the new LD11E dimmer.
Edward
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From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Kevin Hawkins
Sent: 06 May 2007 14:16
To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] xAP control of X10 Extended commands via
Homeseer
Hi Jon,
Welcome to xAP. I've visited your HS based site many a few times in
the past and it also inspired me regarding electricity monitoring. It's
a great example, well done.
I think with the lack of extended X10 support in UK devices Edward
didn't add these features to his connector but he'll no doubt let us
know. I know Michael McSharry uses xAP and HomeSeer extensively and he
has some connectors that he's written but in quickly looking them over
it appears he supports mainly US only X10 interfaces. I'm not sure
there's one you could use here in the UK.
http://board. <http://board.homeseer.com/forumdisplay.php?f=730>
homeseer.com/forumdisplay.php?f=730
He also has written his own/another xAP HomeSeer plugin. I'm sure
someone else (in the US) had mentioned a xAP CM11/12 interface conduit
but I can't just remember who. At a hardware level there will be an
opn232 embedded controller launched soon that will provide a xAP / X10
embedded solution. www.opnode.org
Leaving HS in control of the X10 interface might not even be a
restriction though. I can't remember whether the HS plugins (J's or
M's) support the xAP X10 schema based on HS's locally attached X10
interface (J ?) , if so then it's effectively the same as one connected
via E's conduit in that X10 will become accessible as a xAP networked
resource. The X10 devices within HS may also present as xAP 'Basic
Status and Control' devices meaning that you have control of them via
the xAP BSC schema and onward to X10. The difference here is that the
X10 xAP schema effectively allows you to form and send X10 messages eg
Device=B7 etc - whereas the BSC schema controls one named end device eg
'Water Heater' based on the target= line. The fact that the device is
actually controlled by X10 is hidden from the user, which is one of
xAP's purposes - to make the thing just work and no need to know how
it's accomplished. Later if you for example swapped the water heater
over to C-Bus you don't need to change anything in your scripts - the
named device would still work even though it had moved from X10 to C-Bus
control.
Kevin
Jon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've decided to start transferring my Home Automation setup to xAP. As
> some may know, I'm a avid Homeseer fan so most of my automation has
> revolved around this.
>
> Anyway to my problem. My house is full of X10 LD11 dimmers which
support
> extended X10 i.e. if you set a device in Homeseer to be a Leviton
6381,
> it will automatically go to any dim level without going to 100% bright
> first.
>
> For my first xAP experience, I decided to run my CM12 remotely via
> Edwards X10 connector and James Homeseer Plugin. Everything works fine
> with on/off/bright etc but extended commands fail to work.
>
> I have searched the archives and the response before seemed that this
is
> not supported due to the lack of Extended X10 devices in Europe??
>
> Is there away around this ( going to 100% bright first is not
> acceptable!) or will I have to go back to Homeseer controlling my X10
> directly?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=281103914-06052007><FONT
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color=#0000ff size=2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=281103914-06052007><FONT
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color=#0000ff size=2>LD11 devices <EM>are</EM> supported
using the X10 Direct
Dim command. You need to set them up as 'Pro Dimmer' devices and control
them
using the xAP BSC protocol.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=281103914-06052007><FONT
face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Let me know if that's not working for you - it
works for
me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=281103914-06052007><FONT
face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm using the DIN-rail mounted LD11 dimmer - <A
href="http://www.simplyautomate.co.uk/productDisplay.asp?prodId=3432";>http://www.simplyautomate.co.uk/productDisplay.asp?prodId=3432</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=281103914-06052007><FONT
face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Not tried anything else, including the new LD11E
dimmer.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=281103914-06052007><FONT
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size=2>Edward</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
xap_automation@xxxxxxx
[mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Kevin
Hawkins<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 May 2007
14:16<BR><B>To:</B>
xap_automation@xxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[xap_automation] xAP
control of X10 Extended commands via
Homeseer<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P>Hi Jon,<BR><BR>Welcome to xAP. I've visited your HS
based site many a few
times in <BR>the past and it also inspired me regarding electricity
monitoring. It's <BR>a great example, well done.<BR><BR>I
think with the lack
of extended X10 support in UK devices Edward <BR>didn't add these
features to
his connector but he'll no doubt let us <BR>know. I know Michael
McSharry uses
xAP and HomeSeer extensively and he <BR>has some connectors that he's
written
but in quickly looking them over <BR>it appears he supports mainly US
only X10
interfaces. I'm not sure <BR>there's one you could use here in the
UK.<BR><BR><A
href="http://board.homeseer.com/forumdisplay.php?f=730";>http://board.<WBR>homeseer.<WBR>com/forumdisplay<WBR>.php?f=730</A><BR><BR>He
also has written his own/another xAP HomeSeer plugin. I'm sure
<BR>someone
else (in the US) had mentioned a xAP CM11/12 interface conduit
<BR>but I can't
just remember who. At a hardware level there will be an <BR>opn232
embedded
controller launched soon that will provide a xAP / X10 <BR>embedded
solution.
www.opnode.org<BR><BR>Leaving HS in control of the X10
interface might not
even be a <BR>restriction though. I can't remember whether the HS
plugins (J's
or <BR>M's) support the xAP X10 schema based on HS's locally attached
X10
<BR>interface (J ?) , if so then it's effectively the same as one
connected
<BR>via E's conduit in that X10 will become accessible as a xAP
networked
<BR>resource. The X10 devices within HS may also present as xAP
'Basic
<BR>Status and Control' devices meaning that you have control of them
via
<BR>the xAP BSC schema and onward to X10. The difference here is that
the
<BR>X10 xAP schema effectively allows you to form and send X10
messages eg
<BR>Device=B7 etc - whereas the BSC schema controls one named end
device eg
<BR>'Water Heater' based on the target= line. The fact that the
device is
<BR>actually controlled by X10 is hidden from the user, which is one
of
<BR>xAP's purposes - to make the thing just work and no need to know
how
<BR>it's accomplished. Later if you for example swapped the water
heater
<BR>over to C-Bus you don't need to change anything in your scripts -
the
<BR>named device would still work even though it had moved from X10
to C-Bus
<BR>control.<BR><BR>Kevin<BR><BR>Jon
wrote:<BR>> Hi,<BR>><BR>> I've
decided to start transferring my Home Automation setup to xAP.
As<BR>> some
may know, I'm a avid Homeseer fan so most of my automation
has<BR>>
revolved around this.<BR>><BR>> Anyway to my
problem. My house is full
of X10 LD11 dimmers which support<BR>> extended X10 i.e. if
you set a
device in Homeseer to be a Leviton 6381,<BR>> it will
automatically go to
any dim level without going to 100% bright<BR>>
first.<BR>><BR>> For
my first xAP experience, I decided to run my CM12 remotely
via<BR>> Edwards
X10 connector and James Homeseer Plugin. Everything works
fine<BR>> with
on/off/bright etc but extended commands fail to
work.<BR>><BR>> I have
searched the archives and the response before seemed that this
is<BR>> not
supported due to the lack of Extended X10 devices in
Europe??<BR>><BR>>
Is there away around this ( going to 100% bright first is
not<BR>>
acceptable!) or will I have to go back to Homeseer controlling my
X10<BR>>
directly?<BR>><BR>>
Thanks,<BR>><BR>>
Jon<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
<BR>> Yahoo!
Groups
Links<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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